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What happens when hip-hop and gaming collide in the most dynamic way? Meet Hip-Hop Gamer, a trailblazer who has seamlessly merged these passions into a noteworthy career, inspired in part by his gaming-loving grandmother. His story takes us from the streets of East New York, Brooklyn, to the forefront of the gaming industry, where he challenges stereotypes and champions the idea that character is your true currency. His reflections on family connections through gaming, particularly with his grandmother, reveal how these interactions foster personal growth and creativity.
We also explore the fascinating intersections of gaming technology and culture, with insights into the versatility of PlayStation VR, the empowerment of AI, and the indispensable role of esports in education. By introducing initiatives that integrate esports into school curricula, Hip-Hop Gamer emphasizes the importance of structured investment and passion. We also highlight the profound contributions of melanated communities to technology, celebrating pioneers like Jerry Lawson, whose innovations laid the groundwork for today's gaming landscape.
Join us for an engaging discussion on the transformative power of games as tools for learning and change. From the potential involvement of iconic figures such as Denzel Washington in gaming projects to the emergence of esports as an academic pillar, this episode is a testament to the evolving narrative of gaming. We wrap up with some behind-the-scenes banter, acknowledging the vibrant energy Hip-Hop Gamer brings to the table and the continued support from our community. Don't miss out on this journey through gaming's past, present, and future.
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Growing up, I really had a passion for video games. My grandmother was a hardcore gamer. She's the one who taught me how to play video games when I was four years old. There's so much that I've discovered through video games. There's a quote I created and I trademarked it in everything I own it Character is your currency. The lesson is even though you lost in a match, you won because you showed up. So you have to understand you can't do anything if you're not willing to be present. This is the reason why you're popping.
Speaker 3:I seen you hanging out with Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1:I want to get Denzel in a new video game. When Denzel showed up, we all met and everything like that walked around talking. One of the things that he said was this is so powerful, bro. I'm going to share this with y'all.
Speaker 3:He was like so how do you feel about esports and the impact it's going to have? Esports is about All right, welcome, welcome, welcome, yeah.
Speaker 1:What up, D-Hustle what?
Speaker 3:up player. What's going on? Oh my gosh, my man Guess where. We at, man the Big. Apple baby, the Big Apple NYC stand up, nyc, nyc.
Speaker 2:Our last day, though, that's it.
Speaker 3:We've been holding it down for a good minute, man, I know, oh my gosh, I feel good, good about it. I'm loving the weather. It's nice and chill. For you it's park weather. Yeah, yeah, yeah no doubt man. As always, welcome, welcome, welcome to the next episode of Backstage with Bobby D. It's your host. You know your boy right here and we got D-Hustle in the cut. What up, what up, what's going on?
Speaker 1:And we got a special guest for our segment this afternoon, who?
Speaker 3:we got this cat profile up and I was like man, I hope he wear his chain today because I know it's gonna be something serious. Let's give a big round of applause for my guy hip-hop gamer.
Speaker 1:What up, my man yeah, yeah, you already know what it is. You know what I'm saying. It's to go to the game. Hip-hop gamer, you don't seem representing that hot nine, seven to six, sixty. Give it up for my man. Bobby D, your D hustle in the building, let's get it.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, my brother, I appreciate that you gave us our own intro, right, Of course. I got to show y'all love too man, it's an honor to be here, dog.
Speaker 1:Thanks for having me son. The tech hustle let's talk about that hustle too. Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:Well, we really do appreciate you pulling up and you know we. I want to first of all say blessings to you, big shout-outs to everything that you're doing. We're going to cover some really cool topics, but you are impacting our community directly, which is fire. So big shout-outs. And, at the end of the day, when people come to this show, people tune in, and they're going to be tuning in to this episode for sure. So, hip Hop Gamer, tell us a little bit about yourself. How'd you get the name hip-hop gamer and how did you get into the gaming scene?
Speaker 1:now that's dope dog. So, first off, like I got the name hip-hop gamer simply because I grew up on hip-hop and grew up on video games and I always loved the hybrid of what it could be. So to me, um, when I was, uh, coming up, there's a gentleman by the name of Torrence Davis. He had a website called the Bit Bag. He came across my videos and he never seen nothing like it before, because in the gaming industry, somebody like myself, the way I look, the way I talk, didn't exist in the gaming industry and business and stuff like that. So he was like the same thing, like your name, hip Hop Gamer, how you get that, like what made you bring that together? And the reason why that was so interesting is because, growing up in the hood, I'm from East New York, brooklyn.
Speaker 2:Shout out to East New York baby.
Speaker 3:Shout out to East New York. We about to put you on real quick.
Speaker 1:So like growing up in East New York, brooklyn, when you're playing video games like if you're playing Madden or NBA Live you're cool. You know what I mean, all this other stuff, but if you're playing Chrono Trigger, and. Final Fantasy and games like Akari Warriors and stuff like that. Oh, you're a nerd. And the way I understood it growing up, like people would tell me this to my face. They'd be like oh, you play games that white people play.
Speaker 1:Like if you ain't real, if you playing these type of games, I'm like what? So I was the kind of person where I ain't let that offend me. I'm like yo y'all missing out, y'all wildin' Facts. So, literally, growing up, I really had a passion for video games and I had a passion for hip-hop and hip-hop and video games literally grew up together so, like that's, they had to be my name because, that's literally what I grew up loving.
Speaker 1:So that's that part. But in terms of gaming in particular, my grandmom's rest in peace. She's the one who taught me how to play video games when I was four years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shout out to grandma.
Speaker 1:Yeah, back to grandmas hip-hop granny you know I've seen that, yeah, so what happened is, um, you know, when she taught me how to play video games, she also taught me about what love was through video games. And one of the things that she taught me was if you have a passion for video games the way you do, yeah, apply that to your life. And when you find your passion in life through video games now you'll be successful. Oh, drop that gem. I was like yo, I didn't understand it back then, but as I got older, I was like yo, this is so crazy that I'm living out something that you taught me and showed me. And my grandmother was a hardcore gamer Dog like her favorite character, lord Croft tomb raider son, wow she played everything son like donkey kong to grand f auto street fighter.
Speaker 1:Her favorite character was bullrog. You know I'm saying yeah, yeah motor combat, like all of that. So we really rocked out together. So it's just an honor to be able to be here today doing something impactful, not just for the youth but for people in general, and, um, being able to do it with style without having to, uh, be negative or ignorant to get a check like you know what I'm saying like.
Speaker 1:So all of that together, it just showed me something because, um, when you reflect what you want to see, you can actually become the change that you want to be. Oh, drop that, jim right there, reflect.
Speaker 3:What you see is the change that you can become right. That right there is very powerful and that's why the audience let me first tell them there's this button on there, that's the rewind button. Make sure y'all click that button to go back a few steps, check out that sound and listen in, because you got to get tuned to this vibration, this frequency my man's spitting on, because it really does and has changed my life, even gaming right. And to hear how your ancestors gave you that. Oh my God, blessings to her, blessings to your grandma. Absolutely, because that definitely gives you the motivation that you're experiencing right now. And I could only imagine when you were younger, like, oh wait until they see me, type stuff. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I couldn't wait, like you know, what I'm saying Because, like, I'm going to say it like this Me and my grandmas we really, really battled Like you know, what I'm saying In different games and have fun and that's the way just truly enjoying life with those around you, those that you love, and gaming was that tool that allowed us to do it. But also creatively, like being a hip-hop artist as well, because you know, I make songs for video games too. There's so much that I've discovered through video games, so video games help my vocabulary as well.
Speaker 1:So I'll give you an example of what I mean. Final Fantasy VII, right, and I believe this is back in 1997, playstation 1, and when I'm playing this game, you know, one of the dope things about it is you could change the name of the characters that you encounter. Yeah, so the main character, cloud I I changed it to jackal, that's what they used to call me before.
Speaker 2:If I'm game so they used to call me jackal and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So what happened is uh, um tiffia, I had changed her name to, I think, my sister's name tracy. Then um barrett, I changed his name to my brother yeah uh, james and stuff like that. And what's interesting is because then the nature of the story brought me closer to my family because it's one thing to see something happen to somebody in a game.
Speaker 3:Because it's a game.
Speaker 1:But when you see that happen to something that happened to your sister, it makes you think differently and your imagination go crazy. Like so there's a part in the game where you know, uh, your homegirl get hurt. But I'm not just looking at it as a video game character.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo.
Speaker 1:You heard my sister said yo, it's on like, so it on, it's just crazy how it brought me closer to my family, because the stories in video games are so powerful even back then I got a question for you.
Speaker 2:So when you was playing with your grandma, did she let you win?
Speaker 1:Did she let me win?
Speaker 2:Of course not.
Speaker 1:Yo, let me tell you something right now about my grandma.
Speaker 3:So you came out of business. Yeah, let me tell you something about my grandmas, right?
Speaker 1:So like my grandmas, we would have Donkey Kong battles right. So she was real nice at Donkey Kong Country. Super Nintendo son. So there's, a lot of times where she would be beating me on the levels, Like she would beat the level that I didn't beat or whatever, and then she'll talk about it. She'll get in on you, you know what I'm saying on you, you don't say like she's like, she's like gerard, look at, look at what I did. I beat this.
Speaker 1:You didn't beat this one yeah, you don't say I'm like wait, hold on, stop it stop it so then we would have our like like battles for real. And what's so funny is it could be a school night and you know I gotta, you know, go to sleep. But some nights, even if it's a school night, yeah, we would like probably get up early in the morning, before she had to go to work and before I had to go to school, to get Mortal Kombat battles in.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah yeah, like for real Me and my yo you don't understand son, Me and my grandmas.
Speaker 2:we used to rock out. Yeah, no doubt I remember those days waking up early in the morning, I had to be at school like at 730, wake up extra early.
Speaker 3:She to wake up extra early.
Speaker 2:She said, my mom was like you only wake up just to play video games Fast, yeah, fast, you know.
Speaker 3:D-Hustle was on it early, on it early. Yeah, I was like I'm just waiting for you guys.
Speaker 2:I'm already dressed and ready.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yo, the thing that's so inspiring about this story is just your upbringing and coming up right, and that's in terms of a light that stood next to you and help you, you know, inspire you to do great things. Now, how has that transformed into you uplifting, inspiring the next generation coming up?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so one thing that I learned over time there's a quote I created and I trademarked it and everything.
Speaker 2:I own it and the quote is called Hold on. Are y'all ready? Y'all ready for it? Let's go.
Speaker 3:Let's go, hold on, y'all ready for it, y'all ready for it, let's go. Let's go Facts.
Speaker 1:So in the quote I created it's called character is your currency.
Speaker 2:Ooh fire.
Speaker 1:So, like the value is always in who you are, so whenever I partner with a different school with my Playmakers program, right, and shout out to Lisa Evers because we just did a big, big show on Fox 5 News about it.
Speaker 1:So, what it is is. We opened up the partnership with Assembly and I'll give you an example of what character your currency is. So let's say I would have two kids come on stage right and they were battling Street Fighter VI or they were battling Tekken 8 or something like that, right and there's money on the line. They don't know how much money is on the line, but there's money on the line right that they're playing for. Now think about it. On stage you're in front of all your peers in school, staff, teachers, principal, everybody all eyes on you.
Speaker 1:It's one thing to be playing games and you're in a crib chilling. It's another thing to be on that stage and everybody's watching cheering you on, to be on that stage and everybody's watching cheering you on. So then what happened is subliminally, when I'm teaching them is, uh, pressure moments. Oh yeah, yeah, because see a lot of times, especially emotionally, if you're not emotionally intelligent, uh, when pressure moments arrive because they will if you're not prepared on how to handle them, you'll lose yourself in the process so these are things that you need to learn early as a kid.
Speaker 1:And my program starts as early as five years old.
Speaker 3:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:So what happens is they're on stage and they're battling, so whoever wins, right? One thing I ask them is would you be willing to share the money that you just won? And they'll win like $200 on stage. And I ask them will you be willing to share?
Speaker 2:Sometimes you get a yes and sometimes you get a no.
Speaker 1:Sometimes the audience is like no, don't share, don't share.
Speaker 3:Sometimes they're like yeah, yeah, share.
Speaker 1:You never know what you're going to be met with, right? So let's say there's a situation where they say, yes, they wanted to share, and because they shared, that $200 goes to 400 that's what's up simply because they was willing to share yeah but out of that 400, $100 a goal to the person that lost in a match yeah the lesson is even though you lost in the match, you won because you showed up.
Speaker 1:So you have to understand you can't do anything if you're not willing to be present. Facts so you got to show up. So that's one of the things that we teach. But I teach through gaming and through these experiences, so they can feel it versus just hear it.
Speaker 3:You understand.
Speaker 1:I'm saying so, that's that. And then the winner um, yeah, you won in the game, but you wouldn't have had anything if it wasn't for this person's participation facts. So now you're subliminally, uh, teaching that you can't win by yourself, so you need people.
Speaker 1:So, especially from a man's perspective, a lot of times we get the mentality where we just want to do everything ourselves you want to be the man you don't want to feel like you got to ask for help, because sometimes it can be seen as a weakness because you're asking for help and stuff like that. I break all of that thought process literally through video games.
Speaker 3:That's real life talk, right there. That's real life talk, real life talk. And yo, you got me like you might need to go get a PhD player. Somebody need to give you an honorary PhD. I'm about to put the word in for sure, because this strategy, this style of not just having them go through that moment to develop, but also giving them an opportunity to feel grace, feel like hey, partnership, feel like, hey, I'm under pressure and I've handled this and I came out on top, and even the person that lost understands their value in the conversation or the situation. Right, yo, you study sociology, anything like that.
Speaker 1:My god, to be honest with you, um, like this started when I realized that I wasn't a good person so I'll give you an example what I mean.
Speaker 1:Right, like so, you know, I follow my lord and savior, jesus christ, and the thing is, uh, you know, and it tells you in the bible, but I never understood it until now. So what happened is um, you're gonna meet a lot of people in life that's going to say you know, like I'm a good person, I do this, I'm a good person, I do this, and that's a dangerous way of living and a dangerous way of looking at life. I'm going to tell you why. Right, so one of the quickest ways you can lose everything is thinking that you can earn somebody's respect or earn somebody's grace, or whatever, whatever. So I'll give you an example of what I mean. Right, if somebody does a lot of things for you, that's cool and you keep doing it, keep doing it. So now you think that they're a certain way because of the works that they showed you. Now you're going to look at this person, this person like, oh, that's my man, oh, that's the homie. They looked out for me, they did this, they did that, they did works to show you something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so now, once they get a hundred percent close to you and they got a hundred percent access to things that you would normally keep private or whatever it is. They have the. They're now in a position to completely manipulate everything, take everything from you and you would be like I thought they was. Yeah, why was that? Yeah, you never knew them. They just knew what to do to get to you, because, the thing is, your value was in their works, but you never saw who they was.
Speaker 1:So in the Bible it shows you that you know, through faith and grace are we saved. So what it is is and this hit me strong If you was to ask somebody you know how many lies have you ever told in your life? And then everybody would be like, well, dang, like countless lies, like you know what I'm saying, if you're looking at it, of course, my life, yeah. So do you ask them and see if they honest with themselves, um, is a liar a good person? And then it's like you have some people that would be like, well, yeah, like a liar could be a good person because you did this good thing, good, doing a good deed or a bad deed is literally that a good deed or a bad deed. But being a good person, that means you have to be perfect and there's only one that's perfect.
Speaker 2:You're not perfect.
Speaker 1:So once I realized that I wasn't a good person we were sinners that's when I realized I was free, because now I don't have to carry the burden of trying to be perfect or trying to be this good person. I can actually live my life doing the best that I can, knowing that the only reason I'm able to do anything is through the grace of God.
Speaker 3:So now I'm free, yeah, yeah, and the mindset shift that you have there is like, it's like you have the ability to choose right or wrong. Right and mindset wise, you know that you can choose right Because I can choose. That gives me power, that gives me the ability to be on the right side or the left side. Yeah, so it's like really embracing that mindset changes the way that you view the world or view interactions with people. So, absolutely, yo, bro, yo, I'm telling you, man, y'all better tune in.
Speaker 2:Yeah like character is your currency.
Speaker 1:It goes back to that. Yeah, so that's why, like anybody that I meet, like even out the gate and stuff like that, you don't have to earn my trust or earn my respect. Yeah, yeah yeah, it's one of those situations where, out the gate, you know if you are keeping it 100, that 100 will never go to 99. It'll never go to 80. It'll never, go to 70. It doesn't mean that you're going to be perfect, or something like that.
Speaker 1:What it means is that if somebody can be honest with themselves, it says a lot about what they can offer to whoever they encounter. See what I'm saying. So these are the things. I look at things very, very different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and let me tell you this, all ties back into your journey and the commitment that you're making by bringing gaming into our community, embracing it in a different light. But also just understand the value behind all of those things that are going on in terms of character development, the currency that you have with that character, and then it turns into the real world and then that becomes you in terms of like, hey, yeah, you are playing a game of life. You can do right and wrong. So, man, that right there is like, first of all, this is the reason why you're popping.
Speaker 1:This is the reason why you're hitting it like that.
Speaker 3:This is the reason why, people, when I first landed on your page, I was like yo, let me zoom more in to see what's good, because you are representing that publicly presently. And let me tell you I really do appreciate this because it's a different light. Our community doesn't see it enough right, and this is the thing about, even from my background as an engineer. Thing about even from my background as an engineer is I'm always myself right, even when I was in the work environment. I used to work at, uh, this really cool social media company. Um, some of my audience members know it. Uh, it's the one, the one that used to be the little blue bird. You see how he always dropped that yo the hustle is on point with this.
Speaker 3:He's ready for it. He's ready for it, but I worked at twitter for almost 10 years years becoming a lead engineer there and people just didn't know how I moved.
Speaker 3:And I'm like yo y'all told me to be myself. Let me show you what me being myself 100 looks like. That's when the chain comes out, that's when the fit comes out. That's why I'm wearing the Jordans to the office, and really what it gave me was an environment not just for me to show them, but for me to be creative too, because I was in my own skin. I wasn't fronting in front of nobody. You want to go talk?
Speaker 1:let's go talk over there, you know, and I ain't afraid to catch hands either, so I got reach. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it is what it is right so mindset wise is like, soon as you start to embrace that um your creativity, your involvement, the thing that you're committed to. For me it was engineering. I really folded even more into it because I embraced that mindset and you just gave me the behind-the-scenes kind of formula that's been in my mind for so long and I appreciate you, my brother.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you, man. This is what the Tech.
Speaker 3:Hustles is all about.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:We out here leveling up.
Speaker 1:Leveling up.
Speaker 3:So one thing that I did check out or catch out on your profile is that you got some really cool partnerships and things that you're doing.
Speaker 1:And also I seen you hanging out with Denzel Washington and stuff like that. Yeah, shout out to Denzel Washington, son. Oh my God, that's big time. Right there B my nigga. Yeah, let's go, son.
Speaker 2:Train the day for real For real.
Speaker 1:So like, what's so crazy about the Denzel Washington joint is? And shout out to Evie Wright she's the assistant principal over at Denzel Washington School of the Arts and stuff like that. Shout out to Ms Thomas she's the principal too.
Speaker 1:Word up. So what happened is my boy, dr Malik Small. He's the principal of East New York Middle School of Excellence, right, and what's so crazy? I'm from East New York Middle School of Excellence, right, and what's so crazy? I'm from East New York, so it feels great to bring my program first, like back to like, east New York and stuff like that. So you know, evie, that's his wife, and so when I brought the program there and I was telling him everything that I wanted to do, he was like yo, my wife wants to speak to you about your program because, you know, denzel Washington School of the Arts, we got the theater, we got all these other things that we want to do. Bringing gaming there would be crazy, because gaming is art as well. Like it would be crazy. So we had the conversation and she was telling me that you know, denzel is doing a movie right now with Spike Lee so he's going to be in New York for like four to five months and so he's probably gonna most likely stop by.
Speaker 1:We need to, you know, like try to make that happen. So, uh, she orchestrated everything, spoke to his people and once I got the call that he's coming through, we had, we put everything together, the interview, like we got everything set up. And I'm gonna tell you something man, and I told my homegirl, uh, miss pat from, uh, uh, 94.7 the block. She was like um, because she loved Denzel as well, but we was talking and I was telling her you remember Teen Summit, yeah, yeah, yeah, back in the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yo, when I tell you that that energy literally me and Denzel like, created, like recreated that energy, when y'all see the full joint get released. And what was so interesting about it is when Denzel showed up, we all met and everything like that walked around talking. One of the things that he said was this is so powerful, bro. I'm going to share this with y'all.
Speaker 3:He listening.
Speaker 1:Because he had no clue, bro yeah, no clue of what gaming was all about and what it could be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was telling him like yo bro, your peers, like Idris Elba and all of them, like Idris is in Cyberpunk 2077, dog Keanu Reeves is in that game as well. Like you know what I'm saying, idris Elba, he's also Knuckles in. Sonic, like your contemporaries, is in this field, so he didn't know anything about this, but he was blown away by what I was saying, so I literally like pitched him on the spot, just telling him the impact of what gaming and gaming is art being here.
Speaker 1:So, you got to think about the motion capture, the voice acting like everything that's involved, and then you got to use your imagination that much more.
Speaker 1:Like it's crazy and he was like, literally, dog blown away. And the partnership is official. I'm looking to bring the program officially to his school, um, this fall. But I'm gonna tell you something that he said that really, really solidified a lot of things.
Speaker 1:He was like yo, one of the most selfish things that he could ever do was give back because of what he receives, because of some what's that he gives, and I was like yo. I I was like wait, what do you mean by that? Go deeper, like pause. But I was like what do you mean by that? Because I'm trying to understand this even more he was like and I and I had said this too, because it's in the bible as well, but it tells you that you know, um, a boastful man, you know, a prideful man will be humbled, but a humble man will be exalted and because of the position that he's in, how we revere him, we love him, we blow him up so much he's a giant.
Speaker 1:Facts again, you know, amongst people that may look at themselves as small, which is selfish, in a kind of way of like you're better than somebody when nobody's better than nobody, yeah, but the results of what he gives puts him in that position by default. Yeah, yeah. So what he talks about is he always try to do the best he can to give people opportunities so that other people can know what it feels like to be exalted too. That's what's up Shout out to Den opportunities so that other people could know what it feels like to be exalted too.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Denzel and the new gladiator coming out. Check him out. Facts, facts.
Speaker 3:Facts I seen the preview and I was like I'm tuning in, yeah, facts and your real talk.
Speaker 1:I want to get Denzel in a new video game. So I'm going to tell you right now, for those that's fans of Grand Theft Auto and for those that's fans of.
Speaker 2:Mafia and those types of games. I got an issue with Grand Theft.
Speaker 1:Auto.
Speaker 2:Oh, we can talk about it they keep saying they're going to bring it out. They never bring it out. I've been waiting seven years for it. Yo nah, Grand Theft Auto 6 is coming.
Speaker 1:They've been saying that last year it's coming. Yeah, like, but it's no like. It's like the technology and what they've accomplished.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to just tell you this one thing it's and it's in Miami.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's in.
Speaker 1:Miami. So I'll just tell you this one thing, right. So there's this technology you know is powered by Nvidia, it's called the Oracle.
Speaker 1:What it is is when you're playing the game, you know how you could come up to your NPCs, which stands for non-playable characters, and you could ask them questions and stuff like that to the game. Imagine being able to just walk around in whether it's Grand Theft Auto or a different game, but imagine being able to walk around and you can just talk to them. You can be like, let's say, you're on a mission, you gotta go to the liquor store or something like that, to pick up something for the boss in the office.
Speaker 1:You can say, hey, I'm here to pick up two you know in the office. You can say, hey, I'm here to pick up two you know two vodkas and I don't know, I don't drink you know, but I'm here to pick up two vodkas for Mr Presley and they'll say oh yeah, we got your order, hip hop gamer, no problem, this and that, like you could talk to the NPCs and they'll talk to this and that like you could talk to, yeah, yeah, the npcs and they'll talk to you and know who you are, who your character is yeah
Speaker 3:it is scary bro, it is real, but ai is here though. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, and the video, like you said, with that system, the oracle uh, it is definitely gonna be different type of game next level bro next level. Um, and we talk about ai all the time on the show and we do also include like the interaction and conversations that we've had with AI. And you are right, it's like word.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's right there and you didn't need to know more, and I'm just talking and collaborating and it's definitely a new era, a new world, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the video games that's being developed, like even Call of Duty just now, they create like one of their skins for their weapons AI generated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, AI generated.
Speaker 1:So it's like you got to literally think about and this is going to be excellent, especially in school, but you know, descriptive thoughts. Yeah, that's going to be the new way that things get created. So, whatever you think about, you got to be able to be that much more descriptive that much better than other people in terms of getting certain jobs now.
Speaker 1:Because things that used to take like an hour to do, things that used to take three months to do, and sometimes things took multiple people to complete, you can literally do with a thought in 10 seconds, yeah, and and mark that as a gem real quick, because the way that you described it descriptive thoughts.
Speaker 3:There is an engineering practice behind it called prompt engineering absolutely exactly what prompt engineering is is being able to describe what you want and thoughts in a way that the computer can understand and then it generates. But I like the way that you said that, because one of the things I also have difficulty explaining technology to people, and you just gave me a new gate right there is descriptive thoughts. Descriptive thoughts Because now that changes how you talk to it and interact with it, especially if you're being that descriptive which is prompt engineering.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And you got to understand, my name is HipHopGamer, so I'm very lyrical. Yeah, you know what I'm saying I'm one of those type of artists. Yeah yeah, I love the M&Ms of the world and the Kendricks and stuff like that. So my thing is it's one of those situations where I try to find unique ways to convey anything that I speak on. So when people hear it, they feel it. It's like oh yo, that's, I need that.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So, yeah, I'm telling you, man, you need to get an honorary PhD here. Bro, he's changing the game in how we view things, how we talk, communicate and the way that you're making it connect to our community. We get that shit right away, we don't have to go. Oh, let's go look this Google Word up prompt engine. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Descriptive thoughts. Oh, I got you. And to add to that, for the Call of Duty I was playing with my son. They have voices of actors.
Speaker 1:Yep Ice Cube is in one of them, joints and stuff like that and we in the chopper and I'm like that sounds familiar to somebody.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Oh, you know what I do want to go back to, because you were saying you were pitching something to Denzel about a game you're developing. Is that what you were talking about?
Speaker 1:no, no, I'm not developing it. What I'm saying is like it'd be amazing to have Denzel in a video game. Yeah yeah, but one of the things that I did ask him was the Equalizer would be a crazy, that would be a crazy crazy video game.
Speaker 3:Crazy game.
Speaker 1:So I asked him about it yeah, and yo, denzel's so smooth with it. He was like oh, so you're trying to break a deal right now, huh? And I was like, of course I am, I'm the GOAT of the game. Of course I'm trying to break a deal.
Speaker 2:We need you in the industry, dog.
Speaker 1:Think about how crazy it would be if you see a trailer come out and you hear the voice. You don't see the face, yet you see all the action and suspense and then you see Denzel walk out and it's like you got nine seconds eight, three times up it did trailer clothes. Like. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I'm hyped. You know how crazy that'll be. Yo, it's over. He's got to bring the car scene in.
Speaker 3:He sat down, he looked at you.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's just the board I'm telling you.
Speaker 3:Telling you, we're here to support you, whatever you're doing, whatever you're working on. If you need developers to write, develop games, the Tech Hustle is here. We got a community of engineers. We ready to go, and that intro is already plugged in. I'm ready for it, you know what's interesting.
Speaker 1:I want to give a big shout out to Lisa Evers man, because she she's big on self-defense, especially with a lot of the women out there, and you got to look at it, you got to think about it from this standpoint too. She covers like death, like all day, like you know what I'm saying this person shot this person, robbed this person. So you got to imagine what her mindset is on a regular basis, like that's crazy.
Speaker 1:So what happened is um, she was like that she would love to do like a VR game or something like that, and there's like a lot of developers that I know too. But what I'm just saying like, if you know, y'all got the tech hustle guys you know, y'all can probably help out, lisa for real, uh with with a game or a certain app that can teach self-defense in a VR environment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, crazy VR PC, the whole nine, the whole nine and you see PlayStation VR is.
Speaker 1:They just came out with the app on Steam for. Playstation.
Speaker 3:VR so.
Speaker 1:PlayStation. You'll be able to use that on PC as well. Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my son's already plugged in with that. He even comes Like we was actually having on the podcast that his son was looking to build a computer and you know we techies and I was like, yeah, I had my son build one, here goes the specs and stuff like that. So we know, in terms of just the transition and moving more closer to computers, rather than those devices, because you can get more power, more juice, way more power, way more power, and you can upgrade them too. Yeah, dog.
Speaker 1:I'm a partner with AMD. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So without AMD?
Speaker 1:yeah so without AMD, there's no PlayStation, there's no Xbox and nothing like that. And the dope thing about AMD is that they got the CPU and the GPU combination.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Whereas, like NVIDIA, they got the GPU, but Nvidia is really big on AI, heavy, heavy big on AI. But even what people got to understand too is like see one thing about me and my whole business model as well I operate at the source of everything. So it's like, if you want PlayStation, what power is that? I'm going to do a deal with the people that power it. You know what I'm saying? That I'm going to do a deal with the people that power it. The microphones, the roll casters, everything that's being utilized, the device is dope. What's the source?
Speaker 1:of how it even happens. Then I'll do partners with them. People could look at Macy's, but who owns Macy's? Who's behind that? People will see Grand Theft Auto but don't realize who BlackRock is. You know what I'm saying. Like people will see Grand Theft Auto but don't realize who Black Rock is. Like you know what I'm saying, so the thing is yeah, so it's like that's how I operate. I operate at the source Of everything, cause that's how you Get things done.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure, I'm an executor, bro. That's what's up. That's what's up Basically he says I'ma go.
Speaker 3:He said I get it at the source. It's so funny how you said.
Speaker 1:Rest in peace, black Rob. But I was just with Juvenile.
Speaker 3:Out in.
Speaker 1:New Orleans.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Juvi.
Speaker 1:What's so funny? Is we about to go out to the store? You really want to battle? Come see me at the concert, you know how Juvi do his thing.
Speaker 2:One thing I want to bring it up see me at the concert. Huh, you know what I'm saying. That's how Juvie do his thing.
Speaker 1:But one thing I want to bring it up is that Juvie games as well, and he's big on the college football. You know talking about LSU, you know what I mean and everything like that. So it's just interesting how. But he's a techie as well. Juvenile like heavy heavy in tech as well. In tech as well. He was encouraging a lot of people. Always have a trade, no matter what you do always have a trade have a skill set because, whatever the source is, you want to be a part of that conversation.
Speaker 3:Facts, facts. Big shout outs to him and I tell you, just hearing in terms of who you were able to rub shoulders with, how much they're involved in gaming, but also in tech. That's the thing that I want this show to bring out even more, because a lot of our community doesn't know juveniles in it Like you're in it, like it's like as soon as they see it, then that's like, oh, if they do it, if they, it ain't, it ain't just for nerds.
Speaker 3:Like yeah like, yeah, that's how we move and that's how we develop, because, melanated people, we have something that's different in our creativity and the way that we operate and the way that we create. Like something that's different in our creativity and the way that we operate and the way that we create. I can't wait until it's where we're free enough to create the things that we can imagine. It's only going to take time for everybody to notice that, the people they look up to being celebrities, but also those that the celebrities connect to give them the hope that they can achieve it. Big shout-outs to Juvenile. Big shout-outs to the hip culture overall. Because, shit, we, the first ones that really made MP3s and DVDs, go from CDs to MP3s. Like the reason why it was popular was because of us. You still got my line of wire and shit, I'm taking it way back. Bro, band share, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:But you know what's interesting, what a lot of people don't understand and I got the award for this too. So I have the jerry lawson award.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you, yeah. Award winning journalist man.
Speaker 1:So the thing is with this award, what people don't understand, how important, how prestigious it is is, when you was talking about um, a lot of people not understanding, uh, you know the importance of the tech and and everything that's going forward. Is this man? Uh, the industry as you see it today, especially in gaming, is the number one form of entertainment in the world.
Speaker 1:It's the biggest industry music movies combined can't mess with it, and jerry lawson is a black tech black tech engineer who's responsible for it, so he's the one who created the cartridge. So if it wasn't for jerry lawson then we don't get cartridges. So the first system that ever came out home console uh, I believe it was the magnavox and magnavox. They had like six video games.
Speaker 1:It was built in the system so the thing is that business model wouldn't be able to last forever, because once you get the system, that's it. Yeah, yeah that, yeah, that's where it stops. So with the Fair Channel F, with the Fairchild Channel F, with Jerry Lawson, he created a cartridge, so he put the game on a cartridge, so now you can sell cartridges for your system, and that changed the entire business model. So everything after that, from the Atari to the Genesis, Sega. Master all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that's why we have the industry that we have today, because he was able to itemize content and sell it as an individual piece.
Speaker 2:So that changed the game. That changed the game. So how do you feel about question first? So how do you feel now that there's no more cartilage? Now you got an option now to download it. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1:So I mean, no, I love it, but the thing is I'm going to miss the physical.
Speaker 2:You know, what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying, and physical is always going to be important and stuff like that. But when you think about downloading the games and anytime, you have something that's easily accessible and you can always print it you're always going to grow in value. So the thing is you don't got to wait to print.
Speaker 1:Wait to print something to get it to you and stuff like that. That barrier is gone. Anytime you have something that's instant and you can produce in a limited amount and you can always have access to just get it the hotter it is. You don't have to wait on return on your ROI, everything is immediate. So that's the healthy part of the business side of it. But the sad part of it is that a lot of the games from a physical standpoint is not going to exist anymore. Like there's a company called Limited Run. So Limited Run literally is that They'll make like VHS tapes, like they'll do certain like old classic CDs and things like that, just to give you the nostalgia of it.
Speaker 1:But going forward collectively. Everything is download. This download that the data is what it is. 80% to 85% of everything that we consume is now downloaded, especially in the gaming industry.
Speaker 2:And when.
Speaker 1:PlayStation 6 come out and all this other stuff, forget about it, that's 2027, right, or 2026? Playstation 6 is probably going to be 2028 in the next four years.
Speaker 2:You heard it here first yeah.
Speaker 1:It's usually an eight-year cycle. Playstation came out in 2020. And look at Xbox man. Xbox as a platform is not the same, because Xbox is a platform and Xbox Game Pass is a platform itself, yeah, yeah. So that's why they tell you no console required.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so yeah, everything is changing. Do you feel like they're going to be moving more to moving that stuff into the cloud so that you don't have consoles at?
Speaker 1:all, of course. Well, you got to understand, like Xbox didn't win in the console space and they tried ever since 2021. So, and Phil Spencerencer, shout to my man, phil spencer, he'll tell you that you know what I'm saying. Um, the most important generation was the generation of playstation 4 and xbox one, because that's when the digital, where you take your stuff with you wherever you go digitally um, that was that era and they lost that era so that was the most important era to lose or to win that was the era I had xbox on playstation
Speaker 2:yeah, everybody's buying double up yeah like it's crazy.
Speaker 1:So now PlayStation won that era and PlayStation still has more of a traditional business model. But you also got to keep in mind PlayStation isn't as big of a company as Microsoft is from a financial standpoint. So that's why it's more about Microsoft gaming versus Xbox Facts. Facts Because the CEO of Microsoft is now heavily involved, so they're changing the game. So when you look at Game Pass like, for example, call of Duty, black Ops 6 is launching in Game Pass so let's say you don't got a PlayStation and you don't have an Xbox, right Okay, you can still get Xbox Game Pass on your TV on your Fire Stick or something like that, if you wanted to, even though it's over the cloud.
Speaker 1:It's not the same, but you just got to see where the future is headed. And Microsoft, they're on it. Yeah, they are.
Speaker 2:So as a gamer question for you as a gamer do you recommend console or PC?
Speaker 3:Okay, ooh, that's ooh, d-hustle got us the questions.
Speaker 1:That is a question. So it's a great question because of the variables attached to it. So if you can afford a PC, get a PC. I'll tell you why A lot of the games on console is going to come to PC anyway. So for example. You know, before you could only play like Gears of War on Xbox or Doom. You know what I'm saying. You could only play God of War on PlayStation. That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You could play God of War on PC. You may have to wait a year.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But these games, you will eventually have everything.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean. So that's one, but two. Pc gives you freedom. That the consoles don't dog. Freedom Like the performance level is ridiculous. The mods is like, for example, back in the day we had Game Genie and stuff like that on Genesis.
Speaker 1:You know infinite ammo, infinite health, you know infinite money and all this other stuff. Like. I'm partnered with a company called Pledge, so Pledge is what is what? What game genie used to be, that's Pledge today. So when I'm on PC, like those games like Elden Ring and and I'm Souls games it's mad hard. You die like 200 times I got time for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got infinite health if money. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Contra up down there, all this other stuff, 99 minute or not, I play games that have fun, not to be annoyed.
Speaker 2:But if you want to battle, we could battle.
Speaker 1:That's different yeah, so the thing is, but yes, and the, the freedom, the um, the power, uh, and, and just the nature of pc period, like, imagine I'm playing a game but then, as I'm playing this game, I got my obs or my stream labs open. I'm doing this like, uh, you could be a lot more creative. Pc is definitely the way to go, but one thing I would say about console is that console is easier to work with.
Speaker 3:You just turn it on, play the game. You can take it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ready to go. Pc there's other stuff. You might have to download this. You might have to download this. You might have to upgrade that.
Speaker 3:Call technical support. Holler at your boy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But the experience, though, overall the experience, pc got it. I can use my PlayStation controller, my Xbox controller, my Switch controller if I want to. I can manipulate things the way I want to. So PC to me is better, but console is more convenient.
Speaker 2:Facts, facts. You got your answer.
Speaker 3:There we go, Ladies and gentlemen stop playing around, All right, but we're getting close to the tail end of our conversation. I mean D, this has been kind of fire player. I want to go on yeah.
Speaker 1:Yo, I'm here for it. So I'm not sure if there's a cap on the show, but y'all questions and the energy, let's take advantage of it. If y'all don't mind, because I'm an impact player.
Speaker 1:So, I'm the kind of person where, anything that I do, I want to make sure that somebody can leave with something tangible. That's why, like you ever been to a convention and you know you're sitting in the audience and you got somebody on stage talking and they can say a whole lot of like big words and stuff, but really not saying much of anything or something that you can really take and go with.
Speaker 1:Like, I study a lot of stuff, so one thing about me is because I take time off to study so many things that I see and witness. I always look at the aftermath of things, like what is going on in terms of the impact that's left. That's another reason why I love Gary Vee so much, because it's like what did somebody leave?
Speaker 2:with Shout out to Gary Vee. Yeah, shout out to Gary Vee Love Gary.
Speaker 1:V. Yeah, shout out to Gary V, Love Gary V. But at the end of the day, what did someone leave with after all the stuff that you said? Did you do this for you to get a look, or did you really do something to give to somebody? So that's why I take advantage of all these moments, because what can we say or what can be done for the listener to be like wow, facts I. Because what can we say or what can be done for the listener to be like wow, I'm going to do this immediately Facts, facts.
Speaker 3:We appreciate it, and I know your schedule is tight, so thank you so much for giving us a little bit extra. I do have a question for you, so one thing that I know that the industry is, or the education system is, embracing more is eSports. Yes, and my son has been talking to me about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like right.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, that's esports, esports that's my bad. There you go, thank you. So esports is being like, like, offered as a way for people to get into college, get into universities, and programs are developing around it. So how do you feel about esports and the impact it's going to have?
Speaker 1:Oh, not Yo. Esports is about to really really go crazy in terms of the educational system.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Here's the issue, though. So there's too many people getting involved in esports because of the buzz.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the buzzword around it.
Speaker 1:Not too many people understand what esport actually like is and what does, and and what you need to have in place for it to be successful. Esports is not like like an easy business you know I'm saying it's very, very difficult, but with the right people you can do it right and when you have the right people, then you can create the right duplication of systems to make it work everywhere yeah too many people is trying to.
Speaker 1:they trying to go about esports in a way where there's a lot of money in it. So that's why I'm going to do it, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not too familiar about it. That's a lot of education.
Speaker 1:That's the problem. So because there's a lot of money in esports, that's what's the draw. So everybody's they care about it because of the outcomes that they see other people have. But just because you saw their outcomes, that doesn't mean that's going to be your outcome at your university.
Speaker 1:So, we need more people that's genuinely passionate about the culture of gaming, because esports is a part of gaming culture. These are things that most people don't know or don't understand, so they don't know how to build up the framework, to actually execute it, to make it successful.
Speaker 1:So, here's what I would suggest, though, when it comes to the universities and stuff like that. So, when it comes down to the government and you have these relationships and these partnerships and these investments with the government, they have to put something in place where there's a budget, and this budget is like something where you have a five to 10 year structured deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that it's not a situation where, oh, it's not working this year so now it goes away, Because I don't see y'all taking anything else away if it don't work. And we see in the school system there's a lot of stuff that's not working. Kids ain't going to school like they used to. Kids is failing a lot. A lot of kids can't read as well. Yeah, yeah, but it's still there though.
Speaker 2:The education ain't regular. You understand what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 1:So my thing is you can't go at it in a way where this is just some experiment. You're either all in or you're not, but you have to set your business up so that it can work. So what I would suggest? The first thing I would suggest is I would have an esports program, but this esports program is a standard within school, so now it's just as important as science, reading, writing, math.
Speaker 1:So, once esports is seen as an equal to these things now it's going to be treated and funded accordingly no-transcript things through the video games. This is actually what I do with playmakers. So how do we do that? I'll tell you how. So one of the things that we do is we use Streamlabs or OBS, so while kids are playing the game, they're also being recorded. So you get to learn how they learn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the second part. You get to learn how they learn so you're able to maximize each student to the best of their ability in academics.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's the second thing, you got to put that within the eSport. So that's the second thing, you got to put that within the esport. So then the third thing is, from a financial standpoint, you want to set it up to where it's not just a pot that certain people can win.
Speaker 1:You understand what I'm saying. You have to make it where there's a stipend that comes with the actual students, so they're actually getting paid to play games, to learn games and be a part of the industry. So, instead of you just paying to go to school, you're now being paid to learn games and be a part of the industry.
Speaker 1:So instead, of you just paying to go to school yeah you're now being paid to learn yeah, yeah yeah that's fine, so that's the third way to do it, yeah now what's going to happen is kids, parents, everyone's like wait you get you now get paid to learn yeah, and this is technology and there's a budget. That's good. Oh, now everybody wants to get involved. Yeah, for sure. So now esports become just as important as everything else, and this is the gateway of that's just three things, of allowing this to be a gateway so that every school, every university can have this as a part of their program successfully.
Speaker 3:Yeah, facts, big shout out to that. And what it says is that you really thought about this, and I'm glad.
Speaker 1:I dropped that question right you experienced it right.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you something that we're about to do. Next year, this is going to really really go crazy. So I have this joint called Rents Due. So it's an extension of the Playmakers program that exists right now in the schools. And just to let you know, some of the things that we do in the schools is we have financial gaming tournaments.
Speaker 1:I'm a partner with I'm the first gamer to be a partner with Chase Bank, so kids actually get their own bank accounts. Parents oversee them, but the kids have their own bank accounts. They sign their own name, I sign the checks, but then they sign their own name. There's, you know, pay to the order of, like all of that dog. I crash classrooms where I'm giving them their checks and it's filmed. It's nuts, it's crazy and it's inspiring. What we're doing now is we get the parents and the kids together to learn how money works, how you budget, how you do all this other stuff with the wealth builders of Chase. We have all that stuff together. They're playing games together and they're learning about money together. Now that we have that, I got the parents. That's about the battle in different games now, and rents due is designed to where, um when we have the tournament next year. Whoever wins get their rent paid for the whole year.
Speaker 3:That's what's up that's what, yeah, so so's going to happen is now.
Speaker 1:it's like oh shoot. Like through video games that I once wrote off like nothing because you didn't understand it, like that is literally the thing that really like changed and like in some way saved my life and gave me a new lifeline for me and my family oh, shoot. So these is the actionable things that needs to be done so it can become a standard, just in government period.
Speaker 2:I'm glad my son is not here, because he'll go crazy.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you one thing Even hearing this idea is going to create generational wealth. Oh, absolutely, because it's throwing that in the game, the light bulb is going to come on. This is the stunt, this is the move, and you're actually playing it against other parents, other people that are developing and, before you know it, everybody's going to catch it. And then it's not like hey, I'm only taking care of this circle right here, but the seed seeds my generation's coming after.
Speaker 3:That's what we're doing it for, bro. Let me know, let us know here at the tech hustle, how we can support, how we can continue to be a partner as you're developing, because I I feel like you have something very unique, um, and and it's not like just your personality, because that right there by itself is fire, but your unique way of thinking, unique way of thinking how you can impact right. Unique way of saying, hey, games aren't just how you can impact right. Unique way of saying, hey, games aren't just games, they're games for us to learn how to live life and take it to the next level. Oh my gosh, I'm here to support it. I'm so grateful for you pulling up to the spot.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 3:This is definitely and I'm putting it right now, so y'all better come hard. The next guest this is by far the best guest we've had so far really dropping gems, because the audience that we're servicing, they're looking for it, they're hungry for it, and this mindset shift that you've given our audience and your followers too, oh my gosh, I can't wait to see 5, 10 years from now.
Speaker 1:for sure, big shout-out to you. I'm going to say one thing, because I know we're about to wrap up, but one thing that's very important, man, very important. So I know we're about to wrap up, but one thing that's very important, man, very important. So it's like be careful what you consume and pay attention to.
Speaker 1:So I'll give you an example. Right, like I don't do the gossip and like the negative stuff that gets all the like attention, right? So, a lot of times, and it's a sad reality, but like nowadays, you, you know, you got so much content where it's like, you know, like men versus women, women versus men, I hate this, hate this pop this balloon yeah, yeah or um, I don't like it, I don't like the democrats, I don't like the republicans.
Speaker 1:I hate all of this and all this other stuff. Like, like, you have to really look at the world and how divisive everything is at an all-time high. It speaks about this in the bible too. But not to go there right now. But the point I'm trying to make is be careful what you give your attention to so much of, because the impact that we're talking about right now this is game changing, but too many people won't even see it and they will complain about what they don't got, not realizing what's already here, because they're blinded by things that's entertaining but is damaging to who they are Facts. So my advice I don't tell people what to do, I'm not one of those type of people but just my advice is pay attention to what will allow you to grow, because your success is your children's success is your niece and nephew's success your
Speaker 1:brother, your sister's success, your mother, your father's success. So it's all on you, and if all you focus on is a lot of negativity, that'll get you paid or get you up for the short term. We ain't going to know about you in the next 10 years. Dude, that's fire and you got to think about it. I started my journey in 2008. The very first video I ever made was December 16, 2007. I used to work in a mailroom from 2000 to 2014 at the biggest record labels in the world Universal, def Jam, universal Republic, motown Interscope. I was there. I know all these people Like you know what I'm saying Behind the scenes. Like a lot of people may not know who Monty Lippman is, but he's one of the. You know Mike Kaisers and all these other people Like you'd be like yo. Who is that? Remember, he's one of the. You know Mike Kaisers and all these other people Like you're like yo. Who is that?
Speaker 3:Remember I told you the source.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I operate at the source.
Speaker 3:That's where he got it from, right, you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying you know, what I'm saying, lucian Grange and all these other people and stuff like that. So the point I'm trying to say is focus on what's important and what matters. Everything matters.
Speaker 1:Everything else is a distraction and it's not serving you and it's not serving the community that you complain, that you're not being able to do things for so I'm the kind of person, before you point any fingers at anything, point it at yourself, and if you're not consuming and you're not reflecting the very change that you want to see, then you are more part of the problem and we need more solutions.
Speaker 3:Facts Facts my guy Cue that music up D. Oh my gosh Hip-hop gamer, I didn't know you was going to be dropping it like that, my brother. I appreciate you and let me tell you best episode we've had so far, Best episode We've been traveling the country, Best episode we've had so far, Best episode We've been traveling the country and your impact my brother is going to change the game. I'm looking forward to it. I'm happy I'm on the sideline.
Speaker 2:And I pay for the court seat right there I'm sitting right on the court seat and I'm rooting for you player. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Thank you, man. Big big shout-out button. Go back, listen for it. I guarantee you the whole episode's gems Four to five times, because sometimes people don't get it the first time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:For sure, and we only had a few of those womp, womps, I don't know.
Speaker 2:DD has just a few.
Speaker 3:But anyways, thank you all for tuning in to Backstage with Bobby D again. You know we out in these streets, we going, so we're going to have a few people pulling up in Houston and always really do appreciate you tuning in. Like subscribe. Check out my guy Hip Hop Gamer. He came out with his chain and represented for us my guy, my guy. Well, tune in. We out here. Holla at your boy, it's Bobby D.