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0081: Apple, Gemini, And The AI Pin Future

• BobbyD, D'Hustle and Raymond...don't call him RayRay

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A wearable that listens, a platform that taxes, and an AI that never sleeps—this week’s Tech Hustle digs into how power is shifting across devices, platforms, and even orbit. We kick off with Apple’s rumored AI pin, a glass‑shelled clip bristling with cameras and microphones and reportedly leaning on Google’s Gemini to supercharge Siri. The idea of an always‑on assistant sounds convenient, but it also forces a real talk about privacy, handoffs between your phone and AirPods, and whether ambient computing becomes surveillance by default. Even the AirTags refresh becomes a mirror for these trade‑offs as accuracy climbs and battery expectations crash into reality.

From hardware to money flows, we unpack Apple’s push to force Patreon creators into in‑app purchases with a 30 percent fee. It’s the platform tax, back with sharper teeth. We explore what this means for fans, creators, and pricing, why some may go web‑first to keep margins, and how discoverability, SEO, and direct relationships turn into survival skills. That debate sets the stage for a thorny story about a wedding venue refusing a refund after a tragic loss—contract law colliding with compassion—and we weigh the business logic against the human cost.

Then we raise the stakes. Bobby shares how he stood up an agentic AI at home—“Jules”—running nonstop on its own machine, monitoring the network, queuing tasks, and acting without prompts. It’s a glimpse of our near future where AIs coordinate with each other online, develop their own shortcuts, and quietly reshape our workflows. Layer on Elon Musk’s plan to merge SpaceX with xAI and launch AI data centers into space, and compute sovereignty jumps from cloud regions to low‑Earth orbit. Who governs off‑planet inference? How will latency, resilience, and jurisdiction evolve when your model runs above the clouds?

Along the way we recommend a gripping Indian legal drama, trade jabs over sports from boxing to hockey to the NFL, and shout out local sponsors and community projects. If you care about the next wave of AI hardware, the creator economy’s pressure points, and where the world’s compute might live tomorrow, this one’s for you.

Enjoyed the conversation? Follow, share with a friend, and drop your take in the comments—would you pay the platform tax or go web‑first? Subscribe for more Tech Hustle every week.

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SPEAKER_06:

Apple and you know Google are combining. Yeah. So they're using the Gemini model uh to power on Siri.

SPEAKER_05:

Apple, who is a very greedy company, I like Apple, has made a mandate come November 1st, 2026. Patreon users, subscribers, supporters. We want 30% cut. So let's just say that someone's subscribing or donating to the tech hustle. Apple saying we want a piece of that. So they have until November the first of this year to switch anyone who's on Patreon to what's called Apple's in-app purchase.

SPEAKER_02:

Elon Musk, which we mention here on the podcast frequently, um, is merging two of his companies together. Um, one of them called SpaceX and the other one called XAI. So Grok, the one that they use on Twitter. He's merging them together where he has a plan of putting data centers out in space.

unknown:

Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so he says, we can already put satellites out there. Um let's go ahead and load up some computers and put data centers that are going to run AI out in space. Welcome, welcome, welcome everybody to the Tech Hustle Podcast. This is episode number 81. Oh, 20 D or no. Big, big round of applause for us. Uh getting to uh 80 plus episodes. Uh, we have another 20 plus backstage with Bobby D. If you haven't already checked him out, please check him out. I'm your host, Bobby D. I got my guy D Hustle.

SPEAKER_06:

What's going on?

SPEAKER_02:

And Raymond, don't call him Ray Ray for Raymond's Nuggets. He he got some insights. He said he might be doing something a little different today. I don't know. I'm getting nervous. Completely different. You guys. Episode 82 is the one where his name. The one after this one. No doubt. Raymond's coming back, right? But uh we want to say thank y'all so much for pulling up and coming hanging out with us. Uh, we got a great show lined up for us today. Obviously, you can see my guy D Hustle always enjoys the camera. Raymond always shying away from it. Um just trying to hold a trying to hold the whole thing together. That's what I'm here to do. Um, but we got a quick run of the show. Uh, we got D Hustle with some tech current events. Sounds like we got some products that we're gonna definitely chat up about. Um, we're gonna have Raymond's Nuggets. Uh sounds like he got something different, so we're just gonna let him do what he does.

SPEAKER_06:

Um and then we that's what he usually does. In case you guys don't know. Give it to you. If you're new with us, uh huh. That's what usually what he does.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean, but he started off strong so far this year. So we'll give him that. We'll give him that.

SPEAKER_06:

If you haven't heard it, go back to the next episode for you can hear exactly what happened.

SPEAKER_02:

Facts, facts. There's always some great entertainment around that. Um, and then I'll be jumping in with some tech insights. Uh, we'll close out with some sports sponsors, um, and then we'll have a quick little outro. How's that sound, fellas? I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We love you. But but you know, one thing that I've actually been working on is trying to find De Hustle some um new intro music. Let's see what we got here. Uh yeah, maybe maybe.

SPEAKER_06:

I got the little DJ. The little DJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on the right path. We're working on it.

SPEAKER_02:

We're working on it. You let us know and definitely send us some advice. Uh, but definitely we're jumping right into tech current events with my guy D Hustle. Uh, so what's going on in the world?

SPEAKER_06:

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Hope everybody's having a phenomenal day. I'm Darwin from aka D Hustle here, working on this beautiful tech event news for you guys. For our new listeners, we got some major stuff, uh, a lot of impact here from nuggets from uh you know AI uh and then from tech. Yeah, yeah. So I'm just dropping in the pin here real quick. I have the lovely Apple AI pin, supposedly coming out in 2027. Ladies and gentlemen, this is something that you can just wear on your chest. Uh anywhere, it's just more of uh almost like a pin. Yeah, yeah. Um it has two cameras, three microphones, uh, with the air tag. Uh almost the size of the air tag, I'm sorry. Yeah. Um also it has a glass uh shell, which is basically meant for it to uh clip on clothing. Um basically is you know, it if you haven't heard yet, Apple and you know Google are combining. Yeah, yeah. Uh so they're using the Gemini model uh to power on Siri. It's coming out in 2027. Yeah. Uh and right now Apple is saying that they're predicting to sell 20 million pair AI AI pins. They already said in 2027.

SPEAKER_02:

Already 20 million. Uh just 20 million.

SPEAKER_06:

We're gonna sell 20 million 20 million pins.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh yeah. What do you guys think about it? Um it's interesting. When whenever we're talking about Apple um and what they're creating in terms of product offering, um, I know that their cell phone, mobile devices, would you say the biggest thing they've ever created? Would you agree? Anything bigger than that? Well, mobile devices? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, they first started up as a computer. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, they definitely have great um laptops, uh, but I think the thing that just took it over uh is uh the phones, right? So I think they've been trying to catch that with some type of product, um, especially with the age of AI coming out. Um I'm just concerned because this idea is not new.

SPEAKER_06:

Um I got something to say about that, but you know, I'll let you speak. I'll let you speak.

SPEAKER_02:

And uh as much updates and changes that they have, I feel like once they make a decision, or actually no changes that they have, once they make a decision with this, we're gonna have this for a few years. Yeah. So I'm I'm a little concerned about this device. I like the idea always on AI. Obviously, I'm an AI um supporter, uh, but I don't know if this is the one that's gonna hit um Apple out of the park. So um I'm a little concerned. I feel like they they're spinning the block, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, Raymond.

SPEAKER_02:

Wearable pen? Yeah, I don't yeah, I don't care for that. You don't care for that? Yeah, no, I don't care for that. Just go into our Discord channel. If you're not on Discord, come to our website and say join Discord, and then you can get access to where we drop our notes and all of our links there. And I want to encourage Raymond to go check out that that same link. I'm just not surrounded.

SPEAKER_05:

You dropped it? Okay, yeah, wearable pen. Yeah, yeah, I'm not, yeah. I know, yeah. I think that's it.

SPEAKER_06:

So it's a yeah, nice in case you didn't know. It's a yeah fan.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it is an Apple product, so you might give it a try. I'm an Apple fanboy, but that's not really exciting me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what do you think, indeed?

SPEAKER_06:

Um, first of all, I want to say congratulations to Apple uh for finally hiring somebody from Google to get some of their ideas because it wasn't from the right first of all. Uh number two, I I kind of like it. Um they're stepping it up. They uh something finally different besides the Pro, the Vision Pro. Um I'm just a little worried thinking that this can be like, you know how we always see these movies that they are watching us on Hey can find what street he was on, yeah, find well, you know, who ran here. So I feel like it's uh it's it's something as far as spying on people. Like if the government ever wanted to come, yeah, I'm looking at you.

SPEAKER_02:

If the government wants to get in, we don't want no troubles and uh hear the conversation or see the conversation.

SPEAKER_06:

But at the end of the day, let's go to the positive note. Um, it's an AI. So if you tell your iPin or what have I just trying to figure out a little bit more how it's gonna translate into your cell phone, or do you speak to it? Or yeah, I gotta dig a little bit more deeper, but it's been like, hey, I'm seeing this. You know, tell me a little bit more about it. It's like the meta, yeah, yeah. But without being on.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct, correct, correct.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, it's gonna have a camera, it's gonna have a microphone, it's gonna have speakers, uh, it's gonna be able to send you vibrating notifications. Um, it it just depends on what what are they trying to do? I I don't I really don't know. Um, and like I said, this product itself is spinning the block because there was a company that um a few years ago, not even a few years ago, about a year ago, came up with the same idea and they flopped. Um, they didn't do too well. Yeah. Um, but maybe Apple can you know do something better. Um and then with that partnership with Google, you know, Jim and I will be be the engine behind it.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm just trying to figure out um their thought process. Yeah. I it's like it's cool that you have a pen. Um, but how is it gonna say it? Do you speak and say hey Siri out loud and it's gonna read back to you? Or yeah, yeah, or is it do you have to have you know glasses, glasses, airpod or airpod with this goal? Look, even Siri, if I say Siri right now, it's going on right now.

SPEAKER_02:

You said it, mine's even popped up, so uh so yeah. All right, man. So next thing I have one thing before you go to the next one. If y'all have any feedback or like this type of product, put some comments in the comments. Put some comments in the right. Yeah, and the screen. You can find the link in the description. Definitely check it out and let us know what you think.

SPEAKER_05:

Before you move on, too. I remember there was a company that had came out with something like that last year, but it flaundered. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I forgot the name of it. Um that's why I said they feel like they spent the block on this idea. Yeah. Um, but I don't know, maybe they have something newer or something.

SPEAKER_05:

It's Apple when people see the name, they might.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's why we thought you would have done, yeah, it's signed up already. Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

But what else you got, Faye? Uh nothing new, nothing crazy. Apple again just bringing out the new iPod um Apple tags. Oh, like air tags? I like the air tags, yeah. Um, nothing crazy. They're just basically upgrading, it's almost the same size, and mine look a little sleeker here. Fortunately, it doesn't give a lot besides a whole bunch of features that Apple is doing now.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, to be able to track you more trackers, or I mean more accurate.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, and you know, enhance the range and findability, um, stuff like that. Uh able to locate exactly where you at, or it's more it's more like find find my apple. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's just more more in depth with it. They update it on the on the app. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know if it's a big, big, like uh like a big thing to celebrate, other than um now, now you can put tags just about on anything. So I wonder if the battery lasts longer. Okay on this one.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, I mean every every product that Apple says or whatever, it's product uh next uh software update. We're gonna have battery to help fix battery. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean you got a few tags, don't you, Raymond? I do, but the batteries have like how long do they last for you think? About a year. About a year? Yeah. But do you you charge them now? Uh I don't know. Are they rechargeable? No, I don't think so. I think they're one time, like once the batteries are. For real? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

They're one time. They're dead. I'm done with it. I have not looked at the battery.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll only say you can open it up, and if you open it up, you might uh violate to any. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't think I'm sure you can, but I just it's just a hassle. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02:

So$99 and you throw it away after a year? Well, it's$99 for like four. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

But still and it only lasts for a year? About a year, yeah. Maybe you could stretch it out a little bit more, depending on how often it's tracking or using. But yeah. I thought it was always on though. No, I mean if it's dead, it's dead. Yeah, it was true.

SPEAKER_02:

So no, but I mean by always on, it's like it's there's really no like, hey, turn this on then this time so that it saved battery life. But yeah. I mean I don't know. I d I don't know what tracking or options you have with it, but it sounds like it's one time use.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, it was cool when I got it, but I just it's not cool anymore. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

The real question is how many times did you actually go use the the tracking?

SPEAKER_05:

Correct, yeah. When I got it, like I said, I put it like on my kids' bag and shoes. I thought it was cool. Yeah. I put them on my keys, but yeah, it just was like, all right, I'm like, I don't really need this. So$99 is it worth the$90? It's not, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even the newer one. I mean, I don't know. It's I guess it's the your use case, however you want to use it. Yeah. But like I said, I had to I thought it was cool. I put it on my wallet, my keys, but just no use for it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. What are you thinking over there, Dean?

SPEAKER_06:

Uh I'm just I don't have one. So I I can do a little bit more research on it, but you have one. I I always thought that that can be charged. No, I don't think it has it don't come with a charging station or nothing. Every Apple product comes with something to charge.

SPEAKER_02:

No, well, technically they have to put like lithium batteries in there for it to actually charge. Maybe they're not doing that and they're just using the little, you know, the clicker battery type thing for a very low uh frequency. Um, but yeah, I've always known them to not be chargeable, but I didn't know that the shelf life was that short.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I mean a year is pretty good, right?

SPEAKER_02:

But you want it to last like five years.

SPEAKER_05:

Why not?

SPEAKER_02:

Come on. Um, but it'll be really interesting to see how this newer product uh shines. Um hey Apple, if y'all want to send us a few tags and we'll give some good reviews. Um, or like we said before, if you are an Apple tag user, uh drop a comment below and let us know how you're using them for sure, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Well, I got a business idea already. Uh rechargeable tags. Rechargeable tags.

SPEAKER_02:

These like you hire me as a product guy already. Like, why are y'all wasting my time? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, but I see I see what they're doing,$99 every year to get money out of you guys. So if you recharge it, that means you're not gonna even come back to me again to buy another product. Exactly. Understood. I get it. Yeah. More business.

SPEAKER_02:

I can imagine those meetings, those corporate meetings. I get it. But that'd be funny. Uh well, D, thank you so much for the tech current events. And um, yeah, let us know about what y'all think about D's intro music over here. Let me see if I can hit the button. There we go.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know if you're gonna be a fan or you like the next DJ. I don't know what you're trying to do.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying.

SPEAKER_06:

I feel like you're you're using the more than it's supposed. It's channel.

SPEAKER_02:

You see, you see, it it's too high of a bar, bro. It's too high of a bar. If you give me that channel, and then you can't. Alright, we're still working on it.

SPEAKER_06:

We're still working on it. We're still working on it, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_02:

But we got my guy Raymond. Don't call him Ray Ray with Raymond's nuggets, but he said no nuggets today. But uh, what's going on, player?

SPEAKER_05:

Changing it up. Yeah, no nuggets, no utility sites, just straight up conversation. What's going on, player? First one is um, want to get your guys' feedback on this and the audience, so a lot of participation here. So I'm gonna drop a link in here. Um, I'm gonna start off with our favorite company, Apple.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, man, today just turned into Apple stories.

SPEAKER_05:

So I'm gonna drop a link in here of a company called Patreon. We've all heard of Patreon, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Patreon's a great company for people like us at the Tech Hustle and our listeners who are inspiring YouTubers or content creators. Um, Patreon's a really cool website where it allows you to like support your creators. You can donate money to them, you can subscribe to their channel. It's just an awesome avenue. Like uh one of my favorite podcasts, Joe Budden, uh Joe Budd Network, uh he is like an ambassador for Patreon and everything like that. And they have been quoted there was an article that Joe Budden makes$20 million a year off of Patreon. Wow. 20 subscribers love him that much that he makes 20 million a year, and that's based off of his different tier packages, and it's on Patreon. But Patreon's a great company. So the reason why I brought it up here is Apple, who is a very greedy company, I like Apple, has made a mandate come November 1st, 2026. Patreon users, subscribers, supporters, we want 30% cut. So let's just say that someone's subscribing or donating to the tech hustle. Apple saying we want a piece of that. So they have until November the first of this year to switch anyone who's on Patreon to what's called Apple's N app purchase. Apple's N app purchase. So do you know, like when you go to the App Store and you double click and you can subscribe to a company right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people what they do is to support their content creators, they go directly to the website. They go directly to Joe Budden and pay through there. Gotcha. Apple does not like that. Apple's like, we want a piece of that. If you don't force your people to do the N-App purchase, we're gonna take you off completely off the app store. Wow. So now all the content creators are pissed, Patreon's pissed, so they have until November 1st this year to switch anyone who's bypassing that to go directly to the app. So I wanted to get your guys' take on that and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I mean, uh, first off, um that's fucked up. Uh 30% off of just transactions? Because that's all they're providing is a transaction, right? They're not using it. How am I using their ecosystem if I'm hosting it on Patreon? Like I'm I'm not really using Apple ecosystem.

SPEAKER_05:

That is true.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, if I'm hosting on a Apple podcast, that's still different than Patreon and me sending my money to Patreon.

SPEAKER_05:

But what if you download the Patreon app from the app store but you just directly go to the site? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

See, see, that's where they're getting the hustle, is it's like they're gonna block it through the Patreon app and force Patreon to integrate with Apple, Apple's payment system. Correct. So instead of paying it through Patreon, you'll pay it through you'll think Patreon still through the app, but the app is going to go through Apple's payment system and they want 30%. Yes. That's crazy. Yeah, that is crazy. So if if I donate$100, that means$70 go to the creator. Well, hold on.$70 gets cut. Uh 70% of it gets cut for the creator and Patreon, and then Apple gets 30% off top. Yes.$30. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. That's a one point for me. Every app. Well, okay.

SPEAKER_05:

But then again, a lot this is how Apple operates with all their apps, though.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I know they do, but that it's it's not, I mean, 30%?

SPEAKER_05:

That's crazy. Remember the big lawsuit that they had with um what's the game that all the kids play? Um Fortnite. Fortnite, yeah, yeah. They had a big lawsuit over there and the judges like kind of. Wait for my check. I'm waiting for my check. Yeah, so since De Hustle's had some experience on this, what do you think, D Hustle?

SPEAKER_06:

About what?

SPEAKER_05:

Or all of this to Patreon, and you said you're waiting on a check.

SPEAKER_06:

Um at the end of the day, I gotta protect my investment.

SPEAKER_02:

Ah, I feel you.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh but I just at the end they're getting paid. Everybody's getting paid anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So But the the thing is right now, Apple's not getting paid. Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_05:

They're not getting paid for select few people, like four percent that are bypassing it. They're going directly to Patreon.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Apple's pissed. They're like, we want all of it.

SPEAKER_02:

That's crazy. But I'm I mean, I I'm just trying to understand the business model behind it. Um it's almost like because we're on iPhone, um, and because we install an app that's approved by Apple, Apple says any money this app makes, I need to make 30% of it. That's basically what they're saying.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, you're using their ecosystem. You gotta go to the app store. Dang.

SPEAKER_02:

It is kind of slimy, but I mean, and Google's gonna follow right behind suit really soon on the Android side of the house, too.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't know how Google operates, but this is notorious what Apple does. So it's just it's kind of crappy though.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, for me, what I think is gonna happen is less apps are gonna be app stores and they're just gonna be websites. So let's just say you're using Patreon's website.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, but like that's every developer's dream is to be on the app store.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_05:

Like everyone is dying to be on the app store. So that's just I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, I know. I mean, I I just don't but the the thing is is that it's setting precedents for going forward. So anybody that creates an app and you're uh building a subscription service, and that's what it is, right? If it's just one-time payment, they may not really care. But that subscription, like each month, you know, Joe Button is getting a check. And thanks, Joe Button, for telling them that you know they're making 20 million dollars off of this, and Apple's like, yo, we need a cut of that, and now obviously we have this new re regulation, and that's what it really feels like. It's like a a tax. It's almost like a tax that we have to pay. Yeah, yeah. Because I mean, what I would do on Joe Button's side is outrageous my prices.

SPEAKER_05:

That is Patreon says you can do that. Like if you are pissed about that, yeah. But as if I'm a consumer subscribing to Joe Button, I'm pissed off now. Yeah, no, he's raising the prices so he can pay that offset fee.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

But yeah, that is an option what Patreon said you can do as a content creator.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, technically, what this is is a tariff.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes. Yeah. Or build your own app store.

SPEAKER_02:

Build your own app store, but I can't install this app store because it's only it doesn't work on Apple phones because Apple only allows one app store.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. But I know it's it's shitty. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I I don't know about that Apple. Um it it stunts creativity. Um, you're already getting a check. Um they they want that res residual income coming in, bro. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And it's because um they're not doing so well as far as technology.

SPEAKER_02:

I would blame that too for sure. Yeah, yeah. I mean, how's it? That's just me.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm just a regular copy.

SPEAKER_05:

It just seems so greedy though, man.

SPEAKER_02:

It is. Um, but hey, every time they release an iPhone, um, they're not looking and seeing the numbers. How do they keep their shareholders happy? And this has always been my concern with all the subscription, and maybe this is like the Underlying conversation is subscriptions, for instance. Uh Netflix, Hulu, and all of them. They basically have become the cable companies. Yeah. Right? And all they gotta do is raise the price up by a dollar. Raise it next year by another dollar. And each time they raise it, that's billions of dollars that they have. Like mysteriously, oh my gosh, we just made record sales. It's because they can just keep raising the price.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I don't know about that Apple. Yeah, it sucks. I like to see Joe Button's numbers next year to see how well he does after this. But they have until November, so he can he can rake it in. Alright, Rain. What else you got, player?

SPEAKER_05:

Alright, so I got another story here. I want to get your guys' take on it. This is a little controversial. This has been blown up on the internet here. It's very sad. Also controversial. Give you guys a little bit of background. Um, this happened out of Florida. Um the reason why I want to ask you guys is because Bobby, I know you are a business owner. D Hustle, I know you're part of a business owner or your significant other, or whatever. I want to get your guys' take as a business owner aspect or whatever. So there is a uh a lady and her husband. Um they rented a venue in Florida. She gave the last final deposit of$5,000. The venue is$7,600. Hey, we're gonna get married at this venue, gave her last$5,000. A wedding is supposed to happen this May, and then 48 hours later, her fiance dies. Ooh. Fiance dies, gives the last$5,000, paid$7,600, went to the venue, Mr. Venue Man, my fiance died. Can you give me my money back? The venue has said no, we don't have no refund policy.

SPEAKER_00:

Ooh.

SPEAKER_05:

So this blew up on the internet, internet destroyed the business, everything like that. So much so they did a GoFundMe. The best the business owner said he could do is why don't you have your wet why don't you have your funeral services here?

SPEAKER_06:

I thought about that while you were talking about it. D's already like over.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, didn't even give, not willing to give. How do we keep the money? Or nothing like I wanted to get your take first, D Hustle. I mean, Bobby D. Let me get D's comment first. Um, all right, let's get D Hustle's first comment. As a business owner, uh-huh. I mean, come on, man. This is slimy. Like, I give my last$5,000. You said you wanted to hear that he dies. I'm giving you my take, but I want to get your guys' take as a business owner. Like, I don't have a business or whatever, or whatever, but I'm just thinking as a if I'm a business owner, like would I be that heartless to tell someone like, hey, you should have got the third-party insurance. Why don't you have your funeral services here? That's what he said. So I wanted to get De Hustle's take on here.

SPEAKER_06:

So you guys want my opinion?

SPEAKER_02:

From the business owner perspective.

SPEAKER_05:

I did not have any services in the venue. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Here he goes. Um, I'm gonna give you both sides of the story. Okay, and then I'm gonna tell you what I would do. As far as the business owner, as far as the venue, uh, if I tell you five grand for the business venue, and we sign a contract, and that says no return, no refunds, no nothing, this final sales, it is what it is. So even if nine times out of ten divorce or it didn't work out, whatever. If you sign a contract, you're gonna have to honor that as far as that. Okay? As the other party getting married, um going in there, you're signing the contract knowing that you're gonna get your venue is five thousand dollars, there's no refunds, there's no returns. Obviously, you guys are lovers and don't want nothing to happen or breakup or whatever the case may be. You know you're not getting that money back, so we're fucking planning for a wedding, basically. Now the partner dies, the guy issue wants the money back, they already signed the contract. At the end of the day, the winner of that lawsuit is the venue.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, the contract holder.

SPEAKER_06:

The contract holder. Now, this is where things get tricky. If you want to keep your business, not get cancelled. Not get canceled, but you want to still have that income and you okay, they died. Now you have two options. Number one, keep the money because you signed the contract. Number two, try to give the whole money back because you want to, but you gotta make it known. You gotta you gotta make it through the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because by you telling, oh, that's it, yada yada, you might lose maybe a couple you know, people around you, whatever, but if you don't know publicly how out, then it's a different story. Now, since it went public, now he's saying, Why don't you do your funeral here? So he's showing that he's able to do the grace, maybe use that money for other services that are needed. That are needed. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's a win-win situation for the venue because he's making that now. He's charging, he's taking the five thousand dollars, now he's gonna have to charge funeral prices. So if you use the funeral prices, let's say it's another three grand more, he'll be like, you know what, we're just gonna do it, leave it like that. And if the lady tells everybody exactly what happened, it's a win-win situation for him. So now you're having more people to come to your business. It's a business, man. It's just it's just a business.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and I I think uh D is taking the the legal business route, and um it is true, like uh whatever is contractually written, that's what the obligation is for the business owner. Now, if if me as a business owner, um it's me that has to make a decision on let's say that deposit, let's say for instance, let's say that I actually don't own the venue and I'm the the middle person between the venue, and I have to go rent this venue weeks in ahead, so then I actually go and take the money that they gave me and I go pay the venue for it, right? Right. Um, or let's say I have vendors that are gonna be working that venue, like the chef, the cook, uh, the people that are gonna serve the food, like the tables I ordered. So there's a lot of money that I've already expenditure out to get prepared for that event.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm glad you brought that up. You said all the different expenditures you gotta pay the cooks and the food. Yeah. All of those people gave the money back except for the venue.

SPEAKER_02:

Because it felt bad. Yeah, because they felt bad. Um factually, they don't have to. Um the other thing that I would consider is uh the business implication, right? Is now um this business could get cancelled. And I think this business will be cancelled because of that.

SPEAKER_05:

The story has gone viral.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so it it definitely had uh not the positive effect that they thought it was gonna have for standing on it. Um it is five to ten thousand dollars that I I would not let five to ten thousand dollars crush my business, right?

SPEAKER_05:

Okay, so it sounds like D. Hustle would not give the money back if he was a business owner.

SPEAKER_02:

I think D. Hustle would negotiate hosting an event there to hold on to it. And I get it, I would do that. Fiance just died. There is no negotiation.

SPEAKER_06:

They still need something. Let me ask you a question. So let's say the guy then die and they both broke off the wedding.

SPEAKER_05:

Don't give the money back. I agree with you on that. I get it. Like, if they're trying to like pull a fast one, I found somewhere cheaper, yes, you're not getting your money back. But the fiance died. You can go bring a freaking death certificate and show. What are we doing here?

SPEAKER_02:

But you you see, you're you're not looking at as business. You're looking at it as from a human's perspective.

SPEAKER_05:

Sometimes you gotta like Business is business. I know business is business. Sometimes you gotta take the human, or what are we like? Come on, man.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, you throw it on the table, but they're not obligated to do it. That's crazy, man. And that that's the part that I think is a little troubling for you is like what so there's no limits then, like, just if there's a contract that says um if there contract uh uh, for instance, there's an option in the contract to buy some insurance. I think you said something about uh insurance. Like, hey, if if it didn't go down, you would get insurance.

SPEAKER_05:

But you know, like when you go rent a car, if you don't get that extra insurance and you get into a car accident, you're liable for it. I get it, but who has ever heard of getting insurance for a venue like if I my husband dies or a fee.

SPEAKER_02:

I get it.

SPEAKER_05:

You can do that for the plane tickets and all that. But this is like extenuated circumstances.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, the with the kindness of my heart, I would probably give the money back. Correct. Yeah, with the kindness of my heart, but that's not the oblig that's not required when you're doing business. And legally, there is really nothing but the contract that defines it, right? Um and the retribution that they're getting in terms of their business being canceled is the result of that. I mean, I I think with the GoFundMe Fund me, they might even make more money than um they put into it.

SPEAKER_06:

They still tax you, but you'll make money. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So I think they'll get the money back. Um I think it's just fucked up um for a business decision, but there is no obligation. Like, they don't have to.

SPEAKER_05:

I know they don't have to, but it's like that's why I wanted to ask you guys from like a business owner standpoint. Like, would you like as someone, whatever, you would yeah, what would you do?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I would, but there is no obligation that I would have to. Of course, there's no way to do that.

SPEAKER_06:

The right thing, Raymond, to do is give the money back. Yes. Of course, yes. That is the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. But e even giving the money back, D said something like, if I give the money back, nobody's gonna know that I gave that money back. Yeah, nobody's gonna be like, oh my gosh, Bobby's Bobby's uh uh they're not gonna post that. It's just gonna go under the rug and I lose out. And think about what do you lose out on? They didn't even use your venue. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I lost out because guess what? Last week somebody came and they wanted that same date, and I tell had to tell them no.

SPEAKER_06:

Lost a customer.

SPEAKER_02:

And actually they were gonna pay me more because it was actually fifteen thousand dollars for the venue, and y'all only paying me seven.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

See, that's the part of business that sometimes it's not about caring about, it's business, bro. Like I lost money because I'm giving it back. I actually lost$15,000 plus the$7,000 that I have in hand. That's$20,000,$23,000 that out the door, I'm not gonna get back.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't understand how you're losing when the your room is not being torn up or used.

SPEAKER_02:

So anytime my business is running and nobody's using it, I'm losing money. I get that, but it's okay, all right. That's crazy. Okay, so that's the business side of it.

SPEAKER_05:

I get it. I I understand. I would give it back to is it worth the negativity? Like anyone Googles your business, they're gonna see this story. No, there's no positive, like, hey, it's a great venue.

SPEAKER_02:

The owner, this is what is that worth it as a business owner? No, I like I said, it's not worth losing a business over between five to ten thousand dollars for sure. Not, it's not. Um, but you as a consumer have to be understanding that, hey, this is a contract, there's no obligation, like it's cutthroat, bro.

SPEAKER_06:

But seeing we all told Raymond. So if you guys broke up the wedding, you guys don't want to be with you anymore, you're still expecting your money back?

SPEAKER_05:

No, that I agree with you on that, yes, you don't get your money back. If you're trying to pull a fast one, hey, we broke up, or I found a different venue that's cheaper.

SPEAKER_06:

Who's pulling a fast one?

SPEAKER_05:

No, I'm just speaking in hypothetical. Okay, all right. If you broke up, yes, and he's online thinking.

SPEAKER_02:

You're gonna be married.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah. No, you don't get your money back. But if I come to you with a death certificate that my fiance died, yeah, like what man, what kind of monster does that? Like, to me, you're a monster. No, that it's a business owner, bro. Yeah, you're not human.

SPEAKER_02:

But but you don't know, like, there's so much going on in the background for business running businesses that a lot of people don't see this transaction.

SPEAKER_05:

I wanted to ask you guys as a business. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I'm not siding with them, but I understand. Um I don't you don't because you never you never had to have well now, I'll take it back. You never had taken the money beforehand, the deposit, and already allocated and spended that out. Now you're telling me I have to give it back. Where do I go get that money after that?

SPEAKER_05:

That money should be sitting in the escrow account or whatever.

SPEAKER_02:

But that's not how it works, bro. Okay. That's not how it works. So the your mindset is is like, hey, I don't spend this money until after the event. What I'm telling you as a business owner, as soon as I get that money, that money's already spent. So technically, you gave me$2,000 and I have to give you back the$2,000. That means whatever I spent the$2,000 on, I gotta go find that and find another$2,000. That's like almost$4,000 type stuff. That's what we think about when we have to give money back. Okay. Yeah, returns are never anything you want to do because you've already spent the money. All right, okay. But uh thank you so much, Raymond. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

So sorry, so I mean, yeah, but just yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Raymond's pissed. Yeah. Raymond's like, yo, if I get my money. Raymond's like, Raymond's definitely canceling that business, bro. Did you did you donate to the GoFundMe? No. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm done with the story, so but yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02:

You didn't donate, but he's over here wondering. Yeah. But it is a tough top, tough subject, man. It is, it is. I mean, knocked on a system. For sure.

SPEAKER_05:

I hope that you guys don't operate like that in your business if something like that was to happen.

SPEAKER_02:

The tech hustle will find a way.

SPEAKER_06:

So when it comes to Remus Contra, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02:

Whatever it says on paper, that's a little bit.

SPEAKER_05:

Like what? Yeah, that's crazy though. Yeah, so alright. So last thing here is here at the Tech Hustle, we are not only about cops and robber shows, movies, superhero movies. We do have some substance here. You know, we have some culture. Uh, I wanted to talk about a movie that I watched last week. I know it's gonna probably not excite the hustle, probably not gonna excite the audience. Or Bobby D. This is on Netflix. It's called Hack. What? It is a based on a true story, it's a drama. Um, kind of fascinated with the whole Indian culture, how you know they do the arranged weddings and stuff like that. One of my co-workers not to put his business out there, but he is in India right now for three weeks looking for a wife. Yeah, he's definitely gonna come back. Uh 33, no kids, and he told me, Ray, I'm going to India for three weeks. I'm going to look for a wife. I'm kind of like depressed right now. I'm like, okay. All right.

SPEAKER_06:

But um, is this coming to America?

SPEAKER_05:

That's like I said, the Indian culture, I'm very fascinated how they do the arranged weddings and all that stuff like that. Um, their system is pretty locked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they got it down packed, but this story is based on a true story of a lady who's married and her husband ends up going to get married with someone else while she's married, someone younger comes back to her house and it causes a whole big legal drama.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I bet you so.

SPEAKER_05:

So this is it's subtitled. If you can muscle through a subtitled movie, there's no action. This is not superhero, this is a straight-up legal drama based on a true story. I highly recommend it. It's very good. So interesting.

SPEAKER_02:

H H A Q.

SPEAKER_05:

How do you pronounce it? Uh hack, I guess. Yeah. H-A-Q. So it's on Netflix. But yeah, it's uh subtitled drama about a whole legal and religious drama about this guy that comes back with a younger woman while he's married to his current wife. Yeah, I mean and she takes him to court over it.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I can imagine the drama behind that.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, so but uh yeah, I don't know if you guys heard about it. Yeah, have you guys heard of this movie?

SPEAKER_02:

I haven't heard about it. I'm gonna tell my wife about it. I see Dee Hustle smiling here, looks like he's gonna watch that. No. Like a drama.

SPEAKER_05:

Like I said, you know, we have some culture here in the tech hustle. We're not only about, you know, cops and robbers and superhero movies. We do watch some stuff with substance sometimes. Yeah, yeah. So check it out. So I highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, for sure, definitely. I appreciate you, Raymond.

SPEAKER_05:

Get some cool points with your lady.

SPEAKER_02:

If you were So that tells me who he watched it with.

SPEAKER_05:

It explains mind you, this was my idea, not the ladies' idea.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so granted, you know, so but it turned out to be a good good film to cuddle up with, huh?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, I'm just saying, if I'm gonna be a good film, so I can recommend on the podcast. Because you know, people want, you know, they just don't want the superhero movies that we talk about. Yeah, so I'm just showing you we got some culture, guys. Check it out. I actually recommend it, D Hustle.

SPEAKER_06:

Come on, all right, guys.

SPEAKER_05:

He was waiting for that moment.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know if it's me, but lately he's been giving a lot of drama slash movies, uh, girly movies. Uh please speak to him. Yeah, put it in the comments. Put it in the comments. He went from uh what's that his and hers to now this thing here. Yeah, yeah. What is going on here, bro? I see who you spend the most of your time with. I see. It's not you, it's the lady, bro.

SPEAKER_02:

Next thing you know, he's seen the notebook. Facts. Uh the best book, the best, the best ever created.

SPEAKER_06:

Best notebook was a great movie, highly recommended. Which is a great movie. Yeah, so take that back, all right. At the end of the day, uh huh. We already know who's making the calls here. Yeah, it's it's not the top of my list. Thank you, Raymond. Yes, appreciate it very much.

SPEAKER_05:

You guys are you yeah, highly recommended your lady would like it. So I think you guys would as well.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, Raymond. Don't hold your breath, play. All right, y'all. Well, Raymond, thank you so much for some enlightening on a great conversation, switching it up a little bit. It's always good to try new things. Uh we're here for technology, engineering, and the culture. So things that apply. Uh as always, we appreciate you, Raymond. Um, next up, we got some um tech insights. Thank you so much, D, for cueing us up for this conversation. So, um my first question for throwing something on the table is um I do have a movie to talk about, and actually two movies. That one of them I know both of you have seen. Um, but the first one that I want to inquire about is have y'all seen this movie called Megan? Um, Megan, yeah, I think it's Megan 2.0 is the latest one, and then the one that was a year or two ago was Megan. It was an AI movie. Did y'all see that?

SPEAKER_05:

I saw Megan. I can't remember if I saw 2.0. Yeah, how about you did? Same, same, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So uh the reason why I bring it up is um my investigation for a product that we talked about. Hold on, hold on. These like let me listen to investigation. My investigation and research about uh a product that we brought up on the podcast the other day called Moltbot. Um it's basically an AI agentic engine that basically runs all the time. Um and another side note, they actually changed the name to the product to open claw. So if you are looking for it, just look for open claw that's O-P-E-N-C-L-A-W. Um and basically what it is is you always have AI just running. And we've talked about it here on the podcast before. But what if I told y'all that um I feel extremely close to creating my own Megan? Even closer to creating like a Megat 2.0 with open claw. My question is, is how do y'all feel about how fast we're moving to really start to create some of these AIs that um will be implanted in robots for sure? Uh, but definitely have the ability to do just about anything on a computer. I see D, you want to go first. I'm trying to figure out what you're doing. I'm gonna Well first Raymond usually has the the protagonist's uh view on it. So what how do you feel about Raymond?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh you know, I'm always the contrarian on this topic. I'm like one foot in, one foot out, a little scared how fast it's moving.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah. So just imagine like the way that the the movie portrayed um the robotic part is the next leap. But what you see in Megan 2 is how it could be that same um consciousness on the internet per se. And we're at the internet part, not the robotic part. Okay. Yeah. So I'm I'm like so nervous about what's coming up based on this one project because it's getting really, really close.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, did you I don't know which one of the AI companies it was. I don't know if you guys saw it. It was last week. It was either the Google one or maybe it's the one that you're talking about where they were saying like it started teaching itself a language by itself. They didn't ask it to do it, they don't know why it's doing that. I saw it popped up on the internet last week. I don't know if you guys saw the story, I don't know which AI um program it was, but stuff like that scares me.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and and that's the thing about what where we're at with Moatbot is someone decided to say, all right, everybody in the world is starting to download this thing called Moatbot. Why don't we create an AI-only social media network that the only thing that talks on that social media network is an AI. Like humans cannot talk on it. And what they found out is that all of those instances that are talking through this platform, their subject can range from um, how do we find a way to have private conversations that humans can't hear? Or they're like, hey, um, I just came here because it's running grok in the background, just to be an evil twin and be upset about everything that anybody has to say. To uh really starting to answer questions around um where the economy is. right now and having an opinion b based on it. And remember, each instance of this AIs are individuals by themselves and they're coming up with ideas to talk about. And this is a new social media network, it's it's like crazy. There's a million people already a million AI instances that already registered to it. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And this is just like when you think about what was depicted in the movie around um Megan, is like imagine all of those AIs getting online at the same time and now they're finding a place to talk with each other and they're starting to talk. I mean I'm I'm getting worried. I know D's excited about that stuff.

SPEAKER_06:

He has like uh he has one foot in, one foot out too at the end of the day if we're gonna go down, I'm gonna go down fighting.

SPEAKER_02:

He's thinking about my second movie Terminator that I wanted to talk about.

SPEAKER_06:

We can't get mad at something okay there's two sides of the story. We cannot get mad at something that we recreated.

SPEAKER_05:

That's true. That's a good point.

SPEAKER_06:

You know create the monster and only the people that really want it should go out and do exactly the one who don't care about it as much to just step out and step away if you have a feeling you know I like that yeah that's cool.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah all I do want to encourage is um that's a good thing just be be mind be open to it right because it it's it's moving too fast. I can't keep up with it. Somebody that's on this stuff every day I can't keep up with it. I can't keep up with it.

SPEAKER_06:

Going back to the original topic here is what I'm trying to get at you say you almost creating something yeah that's what I got and I'm thinking numbers here so how long does it take the business process to get the business part of right what materials do you need left what more materials I I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_02:

So what am I building um is y'all have heard me talk about jewels a number of times but mostly I've been chatting with jewels. I've enabled jewels to take some actions like reading my emails and stuff like that and making recommendations to replies but what I did the other day is I feel like I've actually brought jewels to life because I installed this program Open Cloud on its own computer. So there's a computer at my house that's just dedicated only for it. I don't even log into it. I c I have access to it but I chat to it and then it can make changes on the computer and it can do the things on the internet. That right there is one of those first moments that I feel like man um I basically have another person living in my house and it's doing things all the time. Like if I go and log into it right now I've got so many projects queued up that it's just going through the projects and working through them without me actually telling him hey do left do right do this do that it's actually doing it agentically so what am I getting really close to? We are really close to these companies selling AI devices that we're gonna put into our house and plug it in like it's a computer and then all of a sudden everything is connected. But it can do even more than just Siri or what Alexis do right now. And if I can do this in my garage per se we are really really close.

SPEAKER_06:

At the end of the day you need to program your own uh make your own uh so nobody won't start talking. Yeah and that's what I'm doing right so if somebody tried to lock and get your AI you can't get in or cheat you can't get out jewels can go in, can't come out. Facts can't combine can rotate yeah it's gonna be like another Jarvis the only way it dies if it goes to uh oh was that an infinity um oh when it turned into Ultron or something like that? When Ultron killed Jar Jarvis.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah yeah it's the only way yeah I mean my son basically told me it's like yo it's like you Tony Starks building a uh Jarvis and I'm like yo it actually does feel like that um that's a good analogy literally I can still chat with it but it's not just like hey tell me what the size of the moon is and it no this is like um it comes to me hey Bobby uh there's this new device that just joined your network what do you want me to do with it I'm like what I didn't even tell you to do that um why are you monitoring my network oh it's because I granted you access okay but yeah yeah it's starting to do those type of things I like it so uh D D might be one of our first prototypes to see uh we just got to name his and and then he'll have the Apple pin on and then hey you're all always connected bro I'm all about it yeah I don't know fun fact uh not to interrupt the conversation but a lady asked uh AI uh to pick the lot of your numbers and she won she won yeah she won like a million or so two million dollars got like several numbers out of not the whole thing yeah won yeah whoa I mean they so I'm gonna use it yeah I never thought about doing that okay he's ready to prompt right now why tell me all of the numbers that ever came out and give me the next set of numbers I mean it is somewhat some probability um the the likelihoods uh but if you stick at it you you're only gonna get closer to hitting those numbers if you're using a tool like that um but yeah there there's so many things that are happening so fast and every time I watch a movie I'm like it's almost like we're recreating all these movies we've been watching. Because the other thing that that I I also read up this week um is uh Elon Musk which we mentioned here on the podcast frequently um is merging two of his companies together um one of them called SpaceX and the other one called XAI so groc the one that they use on Twitter um same guy right uh but because they're two separate entities that they can kind of buy each other and loan each other money um but he's merging them to do together where he has a plan of putting data centers out in space. Oh wow yeah so he says we can already put satellites out there um let's go ahead and load up some computers and put uh data centers that are gonna run AI out in space um he's talking about sending robots um whatever he's building with the robot stuff to send them to Mars and Moon um and make sure we put Rock's uh XAI um AI engine behind it um so we gotta keep an eye out man because that that right there is uh Skynet in the making for me um and if if y'all didn't see the ending of term Terminator um we gotta know how that movie ends. Wow so I'm I'm I'm a little worried about that part of it too but I'm I'm gonna be so tethered to this um innovative cycle that we're on um because if if anything at least one of us gotta know how it works.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah it's interesting at least that's what I keep telling my dad I was like he's like uh you sure you want to keep playing with the fire I was like but if nobody knows how to play with the fire who's gonna help you with the fire uh so I'm I'm gonna keep an eye on it um and definitely if you do have any new uh technology you're using we do talk about AI we do talk about culture stuff but definitely throw it in the comments below so we can he plans to deploy one million optical satellites data centers to power future AI that's crazy that's crazy about that concept yeah see let's say space will be the lowest cost space to put an AI within two years that's your boy I think he's worth like what he just reached what eighty eight eight hundred eight hundred trillion no eight hundred billion billion yeah yeah he's almost uh almost there at a trillion um these merges and stuff like that is gonna give him get get him to that point but um but at the end of the day you know I think he doesn't have no money in his account it's all stocks it's all stocks and assets yeah he he's one of those that borrow borrow borrow never never never sell um and that we're not financial advisors here so definitely but um the hustle is uh uh amass as many assets as you can and then borrow off of them so um he's not playing that he he's been playing that monopoly game very well um and yeah we'll we'll see what else he comes up with yeah well that's all that I have for our tech insights um that's a nice one yeah and I'm really interested in following along and definitely comment below if you're interested um about certain other topics but we're gonna jump into what what what section see I I didn't even have to say anything into the queue DLC what's going on ladies and gentlemen hope everybody's having a good Tuesday here is five o'clock somewhat and 30 minutes left we will have a five o'clock I'm gonna be drinking wow already bro my crystal light crystal light all right guys uh hope everybody's doing good let's get to the sports here and hopefully everybody has had a good weekend uh soccer what soccer is going on right now there's a lot of games going on who is your favorite team I see Barcelona winning right now two to zero so hopefully they can continue doing yeah what they doing let us know who's your team we give them a shout out boxing boxing fight last week oh my goodness if you did not see the fight I seen the fight it was crazy it was a lot of defense and my man shakur took care of freaking business shout out to Shakur you know shout out to Lopez uh even though he lost yeah uh couldn't get around him uh the defense was really really he was uh I don't know man I I felt like he was doing the ice skating shit just you know just rollerblading couldn't get a hit in uh good fight um I just wish there was more hitting um but shout out to Shakur anybody seen the fight I didn't see the fight I only seen some memes on on the fights I didn't see it how did Shakur win was it uh unanimous decision okay yeah they went that they went fully all the rounds uh I don't he only lost one round which was on the seventh round Shakur lost and it's because uh Lopez got a really good hit he should have been doing that a long time yeah I wish I was more fighting uh I can see why he's uh they they call him like the next Mayweather because he's talking a lot of shit already.

SPEAKER_01:

Shakur.

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Yeah he was already on there on the freaking uh right at the end of the fight already in the fight ready that he was you know picking on somebody guy came on I thought they were gonna fight there I don't know but it was a good pay-per-view that's what they pay for that's what they pay for extra for both of them got nine millions for the each fight uh so shout out to them um UCF fights were out there ladies and gentlemen if you guys haven't seen the UCF fight UCF is out letter know who's your favorite guy one thing before we jump past the boxing um did y'all see the cat with his hair that flipped off oh my god yes was it in this fight no that wasn't oh I thought that was during that same time oh my gosh so that was a totally different one fight the guy had uh toupee just came off yeah you gotta really get hard for the toupee to come off yeah you you you gotta well I don't know but I'm just saying it seemed like it has to be because is that or they just did just the round just around and then put nothing on the head I don't know how touch goes uh but it looks like it was just the ring uh around I don't know I don't know I can't I can't call it I'll tell you the internet does not miss though no they didn't miss the the internet does not miss and he he knew it was gonna be live he threw his uh hat I mean his he threw his hair out oh he did that's oh that's how I think I think I've seen him going back into the ring with just uh his his bald head with the line still in the front grabbed it and just threw it to a fan out there that is wild hey well whatever you need bro whatever you need no no no judgment here is that the def that's definitely the definition of getting your wig split yeah literally that is hilarious that's good other than that that's all I got for UCF uh and uh for boxing uh formula uh formula uh is getting ready the new cars releases a lot of cars are already sure you guys which ones are the top prospects and cars let me know who's your favorite team my team is Ferrari and then looks like I let them go in with Mercedes um right after that but other than that there goes the racing yeah uh we're making the left turn NASCAR NASCAR is on right now let me know who's your favorite NASCAR going on I don't even know who's the top players is Dell Elhart Jr. still playing or wow that's a that's a throwback bro shake that's a throwback I don't even know who's there you know we support all communities here we support I don't even know all sports if that is a sport I don't even know what's going on wow Raymond don't start uh golf golf is on ladies and gentlemen let me know what's going on in golf who's your favorite player who it is I see my man Ashk Batit makes an incredible shot over there and the Jupiter in the fifth fifth hoe so hopefully uh he wins uh shout out to all those people over there there other than that that's all I got for that and HL ladies and gentlemen shout out to AHL there's a lot a lot of games on TV if you haven't seen the games uh pick a channel is on there yeah I know you figure it out uh going on from Eastern Conference to Western I'm gonna go to the Eastern right now Tampa Bay doing the thing Detroit Montreal Florida what up what up what's the Panthers place don't worry about it we only play for championships back to back so I understand the thing is is there is they're not so far it's anybody's game game in that division over there so it's weird but whatever uh Metropolitans or inside uh hurricanes uh doing phenomenal Pixburg and then the Western conference we have Colorado uh Minnesota Dallas and then Vegas still on top of number one I'm telling you man these guys might be in the yeah yeah in the championship but I don't know about hockey you guys let me know we're following though we're following uh next up ladies and gentlemen if you guys not getting ready for the Winter Olympics or Winter Olympics it is coming up hopefully everybody's getting ready um there should be something starting on the 5th so get ready for the winter the opening ceremonies happen on the 5th yep who is your favorite team who is your favorite country who are we representing home team he's representing uh you represent IET I but I don't know if IET has anybody in the Winter Olympics IET first and then United States that's nice that my man Raymond's doing Denmark over there he shouldn't get about it other than that that's all I got for Winter Olympics Bro you better stop playing uh women's college ladies and gentlemen winners college basketball is on if you haven't watched Woolen College it's almost uh on your TV but right now there's still other sports they usually fit it in well as soon as they can uh ESPN is very notorious for those games uh let us know who is your favorite woman college basketball team men's college basketball team still go a lot of games going on right now it's still early uh we see one there's a lot of teams let me know who is your favorite team so we can go ahead and give them a shot and fucking being on there is a lot of trades going on right now let me refresh my system because there's so much trades going on that trades I don't even know that they happening right now uh right now let me show you now uh triple j went from Memphis Grizzlies he moved to Utah Jazz a man Kevin Holter went to the Pistons from the Bulls uh green involving Warriors Trey Lakers Harden trying to figure out what's going on in their world um uh Nicola oh Nicola went uh for Simmons um damn there is so much going on I gotta catch up uh Prozinkis not Prozinkis uh the Bucks still trying to figure out uh Giannis uh there is so much going on there and LeBron just still throwing you know ear balls from half court I don't know what the fuck he's doing uh but the Lakers and looks like LeBron are finally divorced about to be soon so get ready for that nobody free man LeBron is free after this I'm gonna tell you that right now who's gonna pick him up hopefully nobody if my Knicks pick him up I'm destroying everything around bro don't don't tell the universe man we'll end up picking up washed up players next we gotta stop I don't know if he needs sales we don't want him and we don't want Ronnie and we don't want a two for one sale going on so please other than that I don't have anything else for basketball unless you guys have any comments questions on there. No and then at the end of the day getting ready for the NFL Super Bowl yeah the one and only the Seahawks versus the Patriots who you got who you think is gonna win I think we talked about it get ready for that that is coming up this weekend and then the Pro Bowl is today ladies and gentlemen you guys don't watch the Pro Bowl is today uh at eight o'clock today so let us know what side do you have other than that wow coming in for the win all right fellas uh y'all enjoy your conversation today yeah uh Raymond Raymond bought some good uh insights uh from what business owner's perspective versus uh somebody with a heart do the right thing do the right thing or get cancelled yeah I mean but yeah hey it is what it is just saying if a death doesn't uh cause you to do the right thing what does when you got when you bills stack up bro and you you at you in the red already so what happened if you have your bill you have bills to pay like you had your mortgage and you use that five thousand dollars yeah for it for for the venue the mortgage mortgage for the venue that you got to pay because you're barely hanging barely hanging on you didn't provide a service you didn't I didn't use your venue I'm saying bro signed a contract you signed the contract understand that right Raymond said the business was about this Raymond you what what service provider do you have for oh for my phone anything anything okay Xfinity for example Xfinity so if you miss the payment for Xfinity you think they're not gonna cut it off and because you say that I didn't have enough money they're not gonna extend it to you they're gonna cut your service out right away and then until you have that money you might have to pay late fees and then the other fees for on top of that to reinst to reinstall your thing. Raymond got a good heart man yeah I understand that but if your bills don't get paid they're gonna be like I'm sorry okay uh it's like they're stealing the money though the hustle I don't know they didn't use your venue that's the contract bro but you signed the contract for six months and then after six months of subscription you know you're gonna get paid you know they're gonna charge you another$30 an example you signed the contract on that didn't you so don't be expecting your payment to be$50 and then after your six months it's gonna be$80. So what you gonna say why I didn't know about that it's in the contract.

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You know what Raymond Raymond needs to start a business. If y'all have an idea for Raymond to start a business put it in the comments below movie flicks trick flicks that's hilarious that's hilarious. Well as always Raymond I really appreciate the the the insights conversation it is the right thing to do Raymond just put it out there it is the right thing to do to get the money back yes yes but my man is getting fame now so not a lot of people's gonna go to the screen of a service facts and then the GoFummies popping so that's what it is now all right Pete to that family um condolences for sure I know we're having a little bit of fun off of this but it's just conversation we definitely uh want to show respect definitely um and D Hustle thank you so much for current events um sports and uh always holding it down man um so for our sponsors let me give a quick shout out to our sponsors first up we have Marvelous Creations uh marvelous creations is servicing Palm Beach Broward Miami Dade um from birthday cakes to wedding cakes treats she has a cake bar that she can come to your event and host a very intimate and special occasion for you if you're looking for more information check us out on our website uh next sponsorship spot we have is Sunshine Photography she's palm prop she's servicing Orlando area and Palm Beach if you're looking for headshots professional photos uh maternity leave maternity leave maternity photos uh photos with your kids and that stuff she does an amazing job and definitely looking forward to that um the last plug I have is a nonprofit that we support here at the tech hustle called the social project big shout outs to Kelly R, the Social Project and the whole board over there uh they're supporting the neurodivergent adults 21 and older and providing a space for them to really hang out and enjoy themselves. I want my pizza this guy and won't stop talking about the pizza event because it was actually a really fire event.

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It was a good event we were building pizza and stuff like that.

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So we didn't like that I'm upset dad and go I want my pizza somebody make me a pizza definitely if you are looking to support a nonprofit here in South Florida especially for the neurodivergent community uh hit us up and we'll definitely accept donations on their behalf.

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Next up we got D Hustle for a plug what was going on Deluxe uh ladies and gentlemen Wonderux bar our lovely ladies I have 20 years of experience on pointing some beautiful liquor or non-liquor or bar mitzvah parties events they were at Jellyfest uh a couple weeks ago so shout out to them over there doing beautiful beautiful things and for your next party or your next event just hit them up and they're more than happy to help you guys out.

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Roger that big shout outs to him big shout outs to them all right fellas well in terms of outro um audience I want to encourage you again use the comments below let us know you're here send us a thumbs up it don't even matter if you just put you know high just let us know you're out there and definitely if you do have some advice for a Raymond Next business uh d hustle's intro music um and anything that you want to give us feedback into definitely let us know. Um, second thing I want to give a big shout-outs to is um our forthcoming book that we actually be releasing on the show soon. Um, I've been working on a book hold down until March, and we definitely got something coming up. Um, but I definitely want you all to keep an eye out. I'm gonna start doing some advertising and commercials. So y'all gonna see me on IG and all these platforms. Uh let me know how how well I'm doing, and definitely if there's anything that I can do better. Uh, but definitely want to make sure y'all know that we out here to support you, and this book is really like a memoir of my life story for you know us getting to this point in life. So definitely really appreciate it. Um, other than that, fellas, any last words, D?

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Hope everybody has a good day. Be safe out there and have fun.

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Yeah, and Raymond, don't call him Ray Ray.

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Uh yeah, watch the Super Bowl, go Seahawks. Yeah, yeah. Kill it at the halftime show, Bad Bunny.

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Yeah, Bad Bunny, big shout out. Give him a round of applause, holding it down. Yeah. The American Bad Bunny. Yes. My guy's American. I don't even know what's going on. Oh, but yeah, I can't, but can't wait. Puerto Rican American.

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And um, also, whatever you do, do the right thing, guys. That's it. Ah, listen, look at who for good spirits. Spike Lee said, do the right thing.

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That's right, that's right. All right. Well, if you didn't know, this is the Tech Hustle Podcast. Holl at your boy, it's Bobby D.